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You Want 20% for Handing Me a Muffin? The Awkward Etiquette of iPad Tipping

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Re: You Want 20% for Handing Me a Muffin? The Awkward Etiquette of iPad Tipping

#11
How is this any different than not tipping with cash? Everyone behind you in line can see whether you put anything into the tip jar. Or is it that there's some plausible deniability that you can claim with not having cash which isn't present for card tips?

Re: You Want 20% for Handing Me a Muffin? The Awkward Etiquette of iPad Tipping

#13

I don't feel guilt when they swivel that ipad around, more like annoyance. When I'm asked to tip for someone handing me a cup of coffee, I say no tip. We should really be pushing to get away from this relic of slavery, and don't tip unless it's absolutely clear we need to; i.e. at a sit down restaurant.

> relic of slavery

... what?

Tipping was something that the patricians/bourgie upper class did to help uplift the waiters/service staff in Europe. It caught on in the USA in the late 1800s and fell out of favor from that upper class in Europe by then.

Largely, USA coopted a "noble gesture" from wealthy Europeans and it has persisted ever since for like a century.

Anyways, I hate tipping as well.

Re: You Want 20% for Handing Me a Muffin? The Awkward Etiquette of iPad Tipping

#14

I don't feel guilt when they swivel that ipad around, more like annoyance. When I'm asked to tip for someone handing me a cup of coffee, I say no tip. We should really be pushing to get away from this relic of slavery, and don't tip unless it's absolutely clear we need to; i.e. at a sit down restaurant.

How is tipping at a sit down restaurant not a relic of slavery? The idea that restaurant personnel earn so little that they need to live on tips is barbarous.

Re: You Want 20% for Handing Me a Muffin? The Awkward Etiquette of iPad Tipping

#15
The introduction of iPad-tip-for-everything ridiculousness has made me reevaluate tipping in general. I've found myself tipping less even for the more normal things, all because the iPads forced me to start thinking about it.

I often tap "no tip" on Square terminals.

Re: You Want 20% for Handing Me a Muffin? The Awkward Etiquette of iPad Tipping

#18

I don't feel guilt when they swivel that ipad around, more like annoyance. When I'm asked to tip for someone handing me a cup of coffee, I say no tip. We should really be pushing to get away from this relic of slavery, and don't tip unless it's absolutely clear we need to; i.e. at a sit down restaurant.

Were slaves tipped?

Re: You Want 20% for Handing Me a Muffin? The Awkward Etiquette of iPad Tipping

#19
If anyone here has been to Japan, tipping is handled much more elegantly and with a lot more business integrity.

Instead of guilt-tripping customers into tipping, businesses in Japan up their prices if they need more money.

I remember once when I was in Osaka I was at a really good sushi place that I had visited several times prior. There was no tip option on the receipt (didn't see it anywhere in Japan) and there was no tip jar. I asked the server if I could tip.

She told me they couldn't accept my tip because they believed the food was priced correctly.

It was a totally different experience than in America where not tipping gets you poor service and unhappy waiters.

Re: You Want 20% for Handing Me a Muffin? The Awkward Etiquette of iPad Tipping

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post #11

How is this any different than not tipping with cash? Everyone behind you in line can see whether you put anything into the tip jar. Or is it that there's some plausible deniability that you can claim with not having cash which isn't present for card tips?

You have to make a specific action to not tip in one. The other if you make they minimal amount of actions (pay for your item, grab the item) then you haven't taken the action of not tipping.

Also the visual difference between tipping 20% and 10% is huge with this, it's hard to tell with cash and change

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