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Cannabis is legal in Canada: What you need to know

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Re: Cannabis is legal in Canada: What you need to know

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How Canada interfaces with the rest of the world promises to be a bit screwy. For just one example, consider airline staff. Some Canadian airlines have already banned employees from using pot. Obviously, the general public doesn't want to fly with pilots that are high in more than one way. These airlines also have to operate in countries, like the U.S., where their employees could be detained or expelled for even adm…

How is the US travel situation with Canada any different to someone coming from say the Netherlands? Regarding pilots, Transport Canada, the governing body over federal aviation regulations has explicitly come out and said use of Canabis is valid grounds for a revoked medical certificate, which is required for any pilot to fly. While the airline rules are one thing, this is a very serious implication for pilots.

It's a bit more passive than that for the aviation stuff. Transport Canada has decided not to change the current policy. That's a bit surprising. A cynical person might think that they were just too slow to come up with such a policy and that there might be one showing up later.

Cannabis is not explicitly mentioned in the regulations and is lumped in with any drug, legal or not, that can cause impairment.

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How Canada interfaces with the rest of the world promises to be a bit screwy. For just one example, consider airline staff. Some Canadian airlines have already banned employees from using pot. Obviously, the general public doesn't want to fly with pilots that are high in more than one way. These airlines also have to operate in countries, like the U.S., where their employees could be detained or expelled for even adm…

> Being able to look foreign gatekeepers in the face and deny having ever used a product that's legal in your native country is now a necessary job requirement for some.

This is not so different from being arrested for having drunk alcohol at the UAE border. (In this case, alcohol supplied by the Dubai airline.)

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/aug/11/woman-arrest...

https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/united-arab-emirate...

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Are you implying that marijuana is "not harmful" and "can improve your quality of life"?

I like this point. Marijuana triggered my first series of psychoses, before which point I enjoyed it while listening to music and hanging out with friends like almost everyone else. Unfortunately, there are too many cases like this to classify weed as "not harmful". I also know of at least two people who almost smoked their life away. They'd be smoking ounces a week, or more, just listening to music, eating and sleep…

You could also say a similar situation could happen with alcohol. Note said , I think in the future , 59-70 years from now healthy people will refrain from alcohol, pot knowing they both have negative consequences to themselves and their offspring

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‘Obviously, the general public doesn't want to fly with pilots that are high in more than one way.’ I laughed way too hard at this for some reason.

I'd much rather have a high pilot than a hung-over/drunk pilot though which seems to be quite common.

Pilots being drunk in the cockpit is not “quite common” at least among major carriers. Pilots are randomly tested throughout the year against a stricter standard than what’s used for driving under the influence in the US. A positive test can be career ending.

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Pilots are in short supply worldwide, any country creating further restrictions is going to obviously face even more supply problems. Get the feeling it will pass unnoticed, like many regulations that don't make sense it's far easier to let it slide rather than change the rules.

I’m surprised to hear that pilots are in short supply. I started learning to fly as a hobby and I saw many videos about how hard it is to get a job at a commercial airline. I got the impression that there is more supply than there is demand.

Getting the necessary time in complex aircraft has gotten almost prohibitively expensive. I also believe the military is creating less pilots as a result of having fewer and fewer airframes. I wanted to be a pilot and pursued an Air National Guard C-17 squadron, but to get the hours they were looking for would have required me to be independently wealthy. And if you go the civilian route, you end up flying for a regional with hopes it doesn't get bought out before you get enough PIC time to be competitive for one of the majors. And that is while making 20k-30k anually for 5-10 years.

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Slight digression, yesterday someone told me the existence of the Kratom plant. Which seems another potent and not harmful leaf that can improve your quality of life. (the few research on it is muddy so grain of salt required, but the amount of people shouting publicly for it in the US gets one thinking).

For a counterpoint, please see https://www.reddit.com/r/quittingkratom/ Kratom has many benefits, including the ability to get people off of serious opiate addictions. However, it is dependence forming and many people have said the withdrawal process is worse even that heroin or benzo withdrawal. It's not without its negative affects.

Thanks, I didn't see that. I'm looking for all the cons.

Re: Cannabis is legal in Canada: What you need to know

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No, it is illegal. Consumption and carrying small amounts is tolerated, police will not take any action and public attorneys never prosecute these cases. But production is illegal and besides two small plants in your home, completely not tolerated. If you get caught with say 10 plants they're destroyed with few other consequences. If you get caught with a more considerable production however, you get prosecuted. A lo…

Production is also largely illegal in Canada, with the exception in some of the province of very limited growing for personal use. Legalization is, of course, legalizing consumption, there will be a government monopoly on the parts of the chains that actually generate money. You'll have to wait a while for the case study -- maybe until the US itself legalizes.

> Production is also largely illegal in Canada

Production is only illegal in the same way that tobacco production is illegal - you have to be licences to produce and sell cannabis products.

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How Canada interfaces with the rest of the world promises to be a bit screwy. For just one example, consider airline staff. Some Canadian airlines have already banned employees from using pot. Obviously, the general public doesn't want to fly with pilots that are high in more than one way. These airlines also have to operate in countries, like the U.S., where their employees could be detained or expelled for even adm…

> The initial tax rates for pot will be much lower, but should increase steadily year-over-year. Alcohol taxes continue to rise every year. The problem is they've got to play this game very carefully right now as the black market is still well established and providing to many people. They need to both drop prices (which should happen once more supply spins up) and start raiding illegal dispensaries and mail order sh…

Can't all these (once?) illegal growers sellers just do so legally now?

Not talking about someone who buys an ounce and sells 3/4 so they get a 1/4 for free, but those doing it as a business, making good money.

About 15 years ago used to grow and sell in the UK, nothing too major, about 1 to 2kg a month would get cropped every month of the year. If the option presented itself to pay tax on the profit in order to remove the hassle and fear or banking the money I would have taken the hit of lost profit in a heart beat.

Is this not being offered to existing growers / suppliers / dealers? I can understand perhaps not as a long term solution, but as a transition period

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Anti weed people made a lot of noise when CO and WA legalized retail sales 4 years ago, as if it would cause mass chaos, but really nothing much has changed in those states. Law enforcement have much bigger problems to deal with like a fentanyl epidemic, and Seattle's rapidly growing homeless population and property crime problem.

There's a lot of "monster under the bed" psychology used by opponents of this stuff, same happened with gay marriage. It's an exploitation of information asymmetry basically, most people simply don't have time to really look into details of everything, so the default "safe" position is generally seen to be the status quo unless they personally experience something wrong (either themselves or via part of their close s…

You mean pot is safe, Muslims are not waiting to kill me on every corner, and if a homosexual person looks at me I won't catch AIDS? What about that healthcare thing? I heard free healthcare will turn me into a communist.

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https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/house-bill/3846

You seriously do not think that you can override Human Rights agreements with some "congress bill", do you? For some time you might act that way, but you are trespassing. There is no right to cross the border, but there's loads of other rights, human and otherwise, that you still undeniably have while being at the border.

The legislation I linked to suspends all constitutionally-guaranteed rights "at" the border (ie within 100 miles of a border crossing, including any airports with international flights) if you are not an American citizen. The suspension of constitutional rights has been tried and upheld by a number of SCOTUS cases.

There is no international body regulating any other kind of right, despite the well-meaning intention of a number of organizations.

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