Cannabis is legal in Canada: What you need to know • Hacker News Board

Re: Cannabis is legal in Canada: What you need to know

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Post by sigstoat » Wed, Oct 17, 2018, 2:15 PM UTC

706f6f70 wrote: post #55

The really interesting studies will be longitudinal IMO. It's almost certainly not going to be another tobacco, but it strikes me as impossible that smoking marijuana is harmless. Should also be interesting to see what marijuana culture develops when the entire country is allowed to consume it legally.

> It's almost certainly not going to be another tobacco, but it strikes me as impossible that smoking marijuana is harmless.

it is known not to be harmless. it can cause cardiovascular issues. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.ijcard.2006.08.001

Re: Cannabis is legal in Canada: What you need to know

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Post by grecy » Wed, Oct 17, 2018, 2:15 PM UTC

apaprocki wrote: post #50

maxerickson wrote: post #16

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They can deny entry for pretty much any reason. You are correct that the US border policy with Canada doesn't make any sense.

Canada will deny a US citizen entry if they’ve ever had a DUI in their life, even if it was 30 years ago. Many people find this out the hard way.

Canada is actually super good about this.

If you're coming from Australia, the official immigration docs ask do you have a DUI? If yes, was it below .07 Blood Alcohol Content?

(In Australia the crime is .05 or above, but in Canada the crime is only > .07)

So even if you broke the law in Australia and got a DUI at .06, Canada will ignore it, because technically driving at .06 in Canada is not a crime, so they don't deem you to have committed a crime at all!

Re: Cannabis is legal in Canada: What you need to know

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Post by refurb » Wed, Oct 17, 2018, 2:17 PM UTC

stan_rogers wrote: post #61

kejaed wrote: post #41

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The Beer Store is an even worse story: it’s a monopoly that’s owned by the breweries!

It was worse before Brewers' Retail (the name before The Beer Store). You needed to go to Molson for Molson, Labatt's for Labatt's, Carling for Carling, Dow for Dow, etc., and there was nowhere to buy anything brewed in Canada but not in Ontario since the LCBO could only sell international imports (by written order, with nothing on display).

If anyone has watched the move “Strange Brew”, that’s exactly what the LCBO stores looked like in the 1980’s.

No advertisements, no product on the shelves, just a person standing at a register taking orders and you case of beer magically arriving on a conveyor belt.

Weird to think about now.

Re: Cannabis is legal in Canada: What you need to know

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Post by Spooks » Wed, Oct 17, 2018, 2:17 PM UTC

706f6f70 wrote: post #55

The really interesting studies will be longitudinal IMO. It's almost certainly not going to be another tobacco, but it strikes me as impossible that smoking marijuana is harmless. Should also be interesting to see what marijuana culture develops when the entire country is allowed to consume it legally.

the packaging for cannabis in Canada (well at least Ontario) already states that smoking is harmful, as well as other health issues

Re: Cannabis is legal in Canada: What you need to know

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Post by doombolt » Wed, Oct 17, 2018, 2:20 PM UTC

bregma wrote: post #94

doombolt wrote: post #58

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Say who? Did you notify the UN about these findings?

https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/house-bill/3846

You seriously do not think that you can override Human Rights agreements with some "congress bill", do you?

For some time you might act that way, but you are trespassing.

There is no right to cross the border, but there's loads of other rights, human and otherwise, that you still undeniably have while being at the border.

Re: Cannabis is legal in Canada: What you need to know

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Post by todd3834 » Wed, Oct 17, 2018, 2:21 PM UTC

A2017U1 wrote: post #130

verelo wrote: post #88

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How is the US travel situation with Canada any different to someone coming from say the Netherlands? Regarding pilots, Transport Canada, the governing body over federal aviation regulations has explicitly come out and said use of Canabis is valid grounds for a revoked medical certificate, which is required for any pilot to fly. While the airline rules are one thing, this is a very serious implication for pilots.

Pilots are in short supply worldwide, any country creating further restrictions is going to obviously face even more supply problems. Get the feeling it will pass unnoticed, like many regulations that don't make sense it's far easier to let it slide rather than change the rules.

I’m surprised to hear that pilots are in short supply. I started learning to fly as a hobby and I saw many videos about how hard it is to get a job at a commercial airline. I got the impression that there is more supply than there is demand.

Re: Cannabis is legal in Canada: What you need to know

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Post by Harvey-Specter » Wed, Oct 17, 2018, 2:23 PM UTC

HappySweeney wrote: post #127

jki275 wrote: post #97

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DUI is also considered a felony in Canada.

Canada does not have felonies or misdemeanors. You are either in violation of the criminal code, or you aren't.

We have summary and indictable offences. A summary offence is more or less a misdemeanor, an indictable offence is basically a felony.

Re: Cannabis is legal in Canada: What you need to know

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Post by sigstoat » Wed, Oct 17, 2018, 2:24 PM UTC

walrus01 wrote: post #15

Anti weed people made a lot of noise when CO and WA legalized retail sales 4 years ago, as if it would cause mass chaos, but really nothing much has changed in those states. Law enforcement have much bigger problems to deal with like a fentanyl epidemic, and Seattle's rapidly growing homeless population and property crime problem.

> but really nothing much has changed in those states

the cash-only nature of the businesses (because of ongoing federal restrictions on banking for people engaged in activity the feds consider illegal) caused an ecosystem for cash handling to spring up along the front range in colorado.

that made it a somewhat more fertile area for organized crime, and so the cartels are more active than they were. and they can't sell pot, so they're selling heroin.

(beats me if the news has covered this, go talk to some denver cops or something.)

Re: Cannabis is legal in Canada: What you need to know

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Post by rfrey » Wed, Oct 17, 2018, 2:25 PM UTC

kenrose wrote: post #140

49para wrote: post #105

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"Canada is leading in personal freedoms", perhaps in weed laws, not in free speech etc.

> not in free speech etc. What's your source on this? Free speech is enshrined as a "fundamental freedom" in the Charter. There are reasonable limits as well, to ensure that things like hate speech are deemed illegal.

I've met a number of people (all American, so I infer it's due to some American news sources) that believe Canadians are arrested on a regular basis for flimsy and arbitrary claims of hate speech, and those arrests are political. The same people tend to believe we wait six months and probably die before getting cancer treatment because of our socialized medical system.

So chalk it up to Canada being used in the partisan ratings war that seems to dominate news nowadays.

Re: Cannabis is legal in Canada: What you need to know

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Post by mikestew » Wed, Oct 17, 2018, 2:28 PM UTC

shittyadmin wrote: post #104

beloch wrote: post #47

How Canada interfaces with the rest of the world promises to be a bit screwy. For just one example, consider airline staff. Some Canadian airlines have already banned employees from using pot. Obviously, the general public doesn't want to fly with pilots that are high in more than one way. These airlines also have to operate in countries, like the U.S., where their employees could be detained or expelled for even adm…

> The initial tax rates for pot will be much lower, but should increase steadily year-over-year. Alcohol taxes continue to rise every year. The problem is they've got to play this game very carefully right now as the black market is still well established and providing to many people. They need to both drop prices (which should happen once more supply spins up) and start raiding illegal dispensaries and mail order sh…

Meh, what people say on reddit and what they do are two different things. Folks might hold out for a bit, but I imagine most folks will pay the “convenience fee” and pop down to the shop on the way home from work. As a WA resident, at this point if I had to go tracking down a dealer, I’d go back to not smoking.