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Re: Cannabis is legal in Canada: What you need to know

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Post by VLM » Wed, Oct 17, 2018, 1:41 PM UTC

xoa wrote: post #63

doombolt wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't see a single reason why you can be forced to incriminate yourself. If confession equals conviction, laws about right to remain silent should also apply. I would happily say "no" and smile if I was you when asked about what you did in a different country that they have no business knowing.

> I don't see a single reason why you can be forced to incriminate yourself. While thread didn't really get into citizenship, if you're aren't a citizen of the state in question you have no right of entry. The state has the right to ask for any information they wish and set criteria for entry as they wish. It's not a matter of "incrimination" as in you go to jail, it's a matter of obtaining permission for entry, you…

"if you're aren't a citizen of the state in question you have no right of entry."

There's a huge racial component. Essentially all of this "you're not allowed to" talk is strictly for white people only.

Re: Cannabis is legal in Canada: What you need to know

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Post by giarc » Wed, Oct 17, 2018, 1:43 PM UTC

verelo wrote: post #88

beloch wrote: post #47

How Canada interfaces with the rest of the world promises to be a bit screwy. For just one example, consider airline staff. Some Canadian airlines have already banned employees from using pot. Obviously, the general public doesn't want to fly with pilots that are high in more than one way. These airlines also have to operate in countries, like the U.S., where their employees could be detained or expelled for even adm…

How is the US travel situation with Canada any different to someone coming from say the Netherlands? Regarding pilots, Transport Canada, the governing body over federal aviation regulations has explicitly come out and said use of Canabis is valid grounds for a revoked medical certificate, which is required for any pilot to fly. While the airline rules are one thing, this is a very serious implication for pilots.

Here are a few points by the CBC. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/kitchener-waterloo/cannabis-5...

Basically don't cross an international border with weed.

From the above article "This is the case even if you are travelling to places like The Netherlands or Uruguay that have decriminalized or legalized cannabis."

Re: Cannabis is legal in Canada: What you need to know

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Post by Simon_says » Wed, Oct 17, 2018, 1:46 PM UTC

neonscribe wrote: post #89

706f6f70 wrote: post #55

The really interesting studies will be longitudinal IMO. It's almost certainly not going to be another tobacco, but it strikes me as impossible that smoking marijuana is harmless. Should also be interesting to see what marijuana culture develops when the entire country is allowed to consume it legally.

It is extremely likely that inhaling combustion products of any kind is harmful to our health.

Agreed. But you can ingest marijuana.

Re: Cannabis is legal in Canada: What you need to know

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Post by giarc » Wed, Oct 17, 2018, 1:48 PM UTC

qwerty456127 wrote: post #66

Government stores OMG.

Many provinces have a long history with government run liquor stores (see LCBO in Ontario, BC Liquor in BC, SAQ in Quebec). There are pro's and con's to those stores.

Re: Cannabis is legal in Canada: What you need to know

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Post by gillette » Wed, Oct 17, 2018, 1:52 PM UTC

ovulator wrote: post #109

drawkbox wrote: post #12

Canada is leading in personal freedoms and new markets with this move, ending cannabis prohibition that is long overdue and a step in ending the drug wars. The policy change regarding viewing drugs not as criminal but decriminalized and a health issue where needed, is the safer thing to do in a regulated market that will improve safety for recreational use and harm reduction. The War on Drugs started as an attack on…

What markets? Canada can only sell to itself. California has a larger population than Canada does.

Canada sells a _significant_ amount to the US for medical purposes and legal sales.

Re: Cannabis is legal in Canada: What you need to know

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Post by lambersley » Wed, Oct 17, 2018, 1:53 PM UTC

Beyond usage of legal Cannabis in Canada, US Border agents can deny entry to those who work or invest in the Cannabis market.

Re: Cannabis is legal in Canada: What you need to know

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Post by HappySweeney » Wed, Oct 17, 2018, 1:54 PM UTC

jki275 wrote: post #97

jrace wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A DUI is a criminal offence. You are being denied entry to the country because of the criminal offence. Canadians are being denied entry into the US simply for what the US deems to be "immoral behavior". That is a very slippery subjective slope to be on. Even having investments in Cannabis stocks can get you barred for life. Do you know where your mutual funds go at night...

DUI is also considered a felony in Canada.

Canada does not have felonies or misdemeanors. You are either in violation of the criminal code, or you aren't.

Re: Cannabis is legal in Canada: What you need to know

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Post by jki275 » Wed, Oct 17, 2018, 1:57 PM UTC

HappySweeney wrote: post #127

jki275 wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

DUI is also considered a felony in Canada.

Canada does not have felonies or misdemeanors. You are either in violation of the criminal code, or you aren't.

I suppose I should have said equivalent to a felony, since Canada uses different terms.

http://www.canadaduientrylaw.com/felony.php

Re: Cannabis is legal in Canada: What you need to know

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Post by lwf » Wed, Oct 17, 2018, 1:58 PM UTC

lambersley wrote: post #126

Beyond usage of legal Cannabis in Canada, US Border agents can deny entry to those who work or invest in the Cannabis market.

From https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/16/world/canada/marijuana-le...

> Canadians who admit at the border to using marijuana may be refused admission, according to the United States border authorities. But the border agency said it would not routinely quiz Canadian travelers about their cannabis habits after Wednesday.

> Employees of marijuana companies and their investors will generally be allowed to enter the United States, the agency said, if they are not coming on marijuana-related business. But the agency said those people might no longer be able to obtain or hold cards that speed up border crossings.

Re: Cannabis is legal in Canada: What you need to know

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Post by A2017U1 » Wed, Oct 17, 2018, 2:01 PM UTC

verelo wrote: post #88

beloch wrote: post #47

How Canada interfaces with the rest of the world promises to be a bit screwy. For just one example, consider airline staff. Some Canadian airlines have already banned employees from using pot. Obviously, the general public doesn't want to fly with pilots that are high in more than one way. These airlines also have to operate in countries, like the U.S., where their employees could be detained or expelled for even adm…

How is the US travel situation with Canada any different to someone coming from say the Netherlands? Regarding pilots, Transport Canada, the governing body over federal aviation regulations has explicitly come out and said use of Canabis is valid grounds for a revoked medical certificate, which is required for any pilot to fly. While the airline rules are one thing, this is a very serious implication for pilots.

Pilots are in short supply worldwide, any country creating further restrictions is going to obviously face even more supply problems.

Get the feeling it will pass unnoticed, like many regulations that don't make sense it's far easier to let it slide rather than change the rules.