The amount of negative feedback this post is getting is excessive.
Agreed. There's a lot to like here.
Responder: A familiar HTTP Service Framework
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#12I used to hire people who have created their own frameworks like this one and our codebase were so bloated. At one point I had to let people go and spend the next year removing tens of thousands of lines of useless nonsense. Since that lesson, I look at candidates Github and if I see a custom built framework, I pass, regardless of how good they performed.
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#13Pretty cool, but I can't shake the feeling that the first example looks an awful lot like javascript... Perhaps... Maybe ... its because I have been "cheating" on Python with JS. I mean, it is a pain in the booty to code up a web app in python without JS. Try to code a mobile app with Python and Kivy... not all that fun (not practical). In less than a week with React, I have done both. So... why not just skip Python…
I've started to wonder what the place of Python is at all. Machine Learning has become deeply coupled with Python, so you have that side of things, but that's not my personal area of interest.
People say that it's good for "short scripts", but whenever I decide to write something in Python instead of TS, I'm instantly met with so many runtime type errors that I wonder how people can honestly believe lack of static typing increases productivity in these "short scripts". For instance, the second I decide to refactor, I know that even once I think I've cleaned everything up, the next few minutes will be spent running the code a few times to flush out all the type errors.
Python is not my primary language, so that could play a part in the issues I have, but if I am allowed to lose humility for a second or two: even though I primarily use TS, my Python is still, in my opinion, stronger than many of my (college student) peers. I hate to imagine all the issues a novice would face.
To be fair, I haven't used mypy in a while. I remember that being decent, but nowhere near the level of TS, in terms of both the power of the type system and the editor support.
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#15I used to hire people who have created their own frameworks like this one and our codebase were so bloated. At one point I had to let people go and spend the next year removing tens of thousands of lines of useless nonsense. Since that lesson, I look at candidates Github and if I see a custom built framework, I pass, regardless of how good they performed.
You can do that if you want... but it seems a bit extreme to rule out a candidate based on one project that could be really quite well designed and useful for whatever community it aims to benefit.
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#16Pretty cool, but I can't shake the feeling that the first example looks an awful lot like javascript... Perhaps... Maybe ... its because I have been "cheating" on Python with JS. I mean, it is a pain in the booty to code up a web app in python without JS. Try to code a mobile app with Python and Kivy... not all that fun (not practical). In less than a week with React, I have done both. So... why not just skip Python…
I'd argue that python needs an async django, which will hopefully be django in a few releases.
There is an async Flask in the form of Sanic[1]. Looks quite usable compared to raw aiohttp or twisted spaghetti I had to help maintain a couple months ago.
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#17Pretty cool, but I can't shake the feeling that the first example looks an awful lot like javascript... Perhaps... Maybe ... its because I have been "cheating" on Python with JS. I mean, it is a pain in the booty to code up a web app in python without JS. Try to code a mobile app with Python and Kivy... not all that fun (not practical). In less than a week with React, I have done both. So... why not just skip Python…
I've started to wonder what the place of Python is at all. Machine Learning has become deeply coupled with Python, so you have that side of things, but that's not my personal area of interest. People say that it's good for "short scripts", but whenever I decide to write something in Python instead of TS, I'm instantly met with so many runtime type errors that I wonder how people can honestly believe lack of static ty…
In further reflection, it is perhaps only because I am so used to TS that I try to make as intense of refactorings as I do. A programmer who does not have prior experience working with as well tooled of a language would not be attempting the kinds of transformations I do, and thus may not experience as many issues.
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#18Maybe I’ll accept non-monospace fonts for code. You get the right ligatures, decent kerning, the softer touch of sans-serif... it has some possibility But psuedo-cursive strings? This font that looks like a retro emulator using a vectorizing filter? This is too much. I’m not happy about this development at all.
I believe the font is called Operator Mono and seems to have become popularized by the React scene. I was using it for a while and actually kind of like it but lately I've been experimenting with Fira Code, which also has ligature support.
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#20Maybe I’ll accept non-monospace fonts for code. You get the right ligatures, decent kerning, the softer touch of sans-serif... it has some possibility But psuedo-cursive strings? This font that looks like a retro emulator using a vectorizing filter? This is too much. I’m not happy about this development at all.
I'm slightly convinced that these kinds of things become slightly popular for a little bit for no reason other than change being nice. When people claim to like them, I wonder if they really just like the feeling of change.
I have a few syntax color sets that I swap between every few months just because its a nice break. I also found that it's really nice to re-arrange my office every 6 months for no reason other than change is nice.