Home..where you pick your nose, scratch your crotch, walk naked, have sex with the lady next door, get angry at your kids and so on. Why would I want all this stuff backed up at Google.com? No thanks, unless it has end-to-end encryption and only I have the key. Also I'd delete all items older than x days (unless on vacation, I'd know that I was robbed, no need to store months of "tape")
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Re: Smart Home Surveillance: Governments Tell Google's Nest Hand Over Data
#52I'm a little surprised google does not use the user's password for encryption. Seems like they are inviting a very bad data breach in the future.
So if you forget your password, your data is just gone? That doesn't seem like a good solution. I worked on a system in a previous life that encrypted data based on user passwords, and we had to add a backup encryption key (tied to security questions) because we had so many issues with people forgetting their password and losing their data.
Google does now allow you to supply your own encryption keys for some offerings: https://cloud.google.com/compute/docs/disks/customer-supplie.... This is probably a better option for those who are clueful enough.
(Disclaimer: I work for an Alphabet company.)
Re: Smart Home Surveillance: Governments Tell Google's Nest Hand Over Data
#53I was recently looking for some security cameras for my house. I was considering Nest, but the fact that they are owned by Google makes me a bit weary, privacy-wise. Does anyone have experience with other brands that you might recommend?
I personally looked around and couldn't find much, so I built my own with a raspberry pi running Motion. It cost ~$100 iirc.
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#54If your data is not end to end private key encrypted, then you are inviting the government in to look at all your shit; photos, documents, logs, everything.
We tend to view this as a technology problem. The real question: Why do we let governments get away with this kind of behavior? Fighting a technology arms race with the government is a losing battle. They can ask for private keys to be handed over - on threat of jail time if you don't comply. We need to start at the ballot box.
The essential problem is that the great majority of voters are vastly apathetic when it comes to privacy, and there are strong incentives for governments to infringe upon it, especially in law enforcement.
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#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sorry man your site lost me at the token based app store...
> lost me at the token based app store Same. Got excited, then saw it's shilling a coin [1]. From a branding perspective, this undoes the goodwill won by the privacy message. [1] https://token.snips.ai
But, there are over "14,000 developers who are already building apps for Snips"!
Re: Smart Home Surveillance: Governments Tell Google's Nest Hand Over Data
#56I was recently looking for some security cameras for my house. I was considering Nest, but the fact that they are owned by Google makes me a bit weary, privacy-wise. Does anyone have experience with other brands that you might recommend?
I've been using Wyze cameras. They're notable for being very inexpensive but still including high quality cameras.
The tech in home security cameras is basically a lens and a cable, usually some software with questionable UI. I'm really skeptical of companies that manage to take that commodity hardware and ask for hundreds of dollars.
It's also a field that's still iterating pretty rapidly, so tech that's priced at near disposable levels is extra appealing to me.
With most home devices I'm assuming there will be security issues, so the fact the Wyze team is at least transparent when they are working on a vulnerability (and hint at how they prioritize) seems above average to me: https://support.wyzecam.com/hc/en-us/articles/360009314072-S...
Re: Smart Home Surveillance: Governments Tell Google's Nest Hand Over Data
#57My hope is that this is another push toward on-prem data management. One of the things that the "computer revolution" spawned in the 90's was that there were a lot of "extra" computers around because everyone upgraded every 18 - 24 months. After a couple of rounds of upgrades, if you had kept the old parts, you had enough parts around to make another computer. In my house this typically became the "kids" computer and…
That extra burden is a tough sell for the other 99% though.
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#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
Care to explain it to us? There's nothing obvious I can see as to why they're using coins, and based on the recent stories about the SEC investigating ICOs, skepticism seems warranted.
Oh, I don't know, I have just heard of these coins myself. But based on OPs response it is hard to tell if they just dislike cryptocoins altogether, or if they read about the specifics and disliked the specifics of this one cryptocoin.
You are missing the fact they are taking about privacy.
Re: Smart Home Surveillance: Governments Tell Google's Nest Hand Over Data
#59If your data is not end to end private key encrypted, then you are inviting the government in to look at all your shit; photos, documents, logs, everything.
We tend to view this as a technology problem. The real question: Why do we let governments get away with this kind of behavior? Fighting a technology arms race with the government is a losing battle. They can ask for private keys to be handed over - on threat of jail time if you don't comply. We need to start at the ballot box.
The ballot box is a scam. An illusion of control to keep us complacent.
In reality, they have the guns and jails, write the laws, and can change their mind as they see fit as to what the laws even mean.
Playing in a rigged game.
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#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
Oh, I don't know, I have just heard of these coins myself. But based on OPs response it is hard to tell if they just dislike cryptocoins altogether, or if they read about the specifics and disliked the specifics of this one cryptocoin.
You are missing the fact they are taking about privacy.
I don't see how privacy and cryptocoins are related. Some cryptocoins can enable privacy, whereas some can make privacy more difficult. My question is if OP has a problem with the specifics of this cryptocoin or if they just dislike all cryptocoins.