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Facebook to ban misinformation on voting in upcoming U.S. elections

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Re: Facebook to ban misinformation on voting in upcoming U.S. elections

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This is something that seriously needs to be clamped down on. It is outright fraud, plain and simple. And since it's being done with the intention of disenfranchising people, it is extremely evil.

Do we know who is engaging in this behavior? I'd like to know who they are so we can make sure they don't try to do something similar again.

I don't have links but the Russians were definitely targeting communities in efforts to reduce turnout during the 2016 election. Reading about the scale and intricacy of their influence campaign is pretty fascinating and worth a read.

Re: Facebook to ban misinformation on voting in upcoming U.S. elections

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Roads have speed limits. Social media can have link limits. Sure, you might be able to exceed your limit by posting to something that is patently or opinionatedly false. But how would you enforce it if a person can simply say "oops sorry I thought you knew it was a joke" or "I agree with its opinion"? Analogy: if a tree falls in the woods, does it make a sound? If you only violate a speed limit when you're caught and…

In order to prevent virality on WeChat, they impose a 100 share limit before limiting new shares to invites-only and only for people who have a linked mobile number. What this effectively means is that if WeChat detects a 'viral-event', anonymity can be squashed and those responsible for causing the viral-event can be identified and I suppose questioned at a later date on whether they are anti-government or simply ra…

It's just a painfully dumb metaphor, don't overthink it.

Re: Facebook to ban misinformation on voting in upcoming U.S. elections

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Roads have speed limits. Social media can have link limits. Sure, you might be able to exceed your limit by posting to something that is patently or opinionatedly false. But how would you enforce it if a person can simply say "oops sorry I thought you knew it was a joke" or "I agree with its opinion"? Analogy: if a tree falls in the woods, does it make a sound? If you only violate a speed limit when you're caught and…

In order to prevent virality on WeChat, they impose a 100 share limit before limiting new shares to invites-only and only for people who have a linked mobile number. What this effectively means is that if WeChat detects a 'viral-event', anonymity can be squashed and those responsible for causing the viral-event can be identified and I suppose questioned at a later date on whether they are anti-government or simply ra…

Well, its not a discussion after hundreds of strangers have been pulled in. Its more of a mob? Its disingenuous to talk about free speech on the web, deliberately ignoring how virality is a new thing and its not working out well to ignore what it can do

Re: Facebook to ban misinformation on voting in upcoming U.S. elections

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The upcoming US elections may prove to be a watershed moment for modern democracies in general. There is a widely held belief in academic cycles that mass voter manipulation through social media has managed to trump all other kinds of propaganda, causing people to become electoral zombies. This belief is based on flimsy evidence and on a mountain of bias. I hope facebook and the other media do everything by the book…

Instead of mass voter manipulation of voters through the establishment media? Nobody would be in a panic at all if Hillary had won.

Re: Facebook to ban misinformation on voting in upcoming U.S. elections

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post #9

The upcoming US elections may prove to be a watershed moment for modern democracies in general. There is a widely held belief in academic cycles that mass voter manipulation through social media has managed to trump all other kinds of propaganda, causing people to become electoral zombies. This belief is based on flimsy evidence and on a mountain of bias. I hope facebook and the other media do everything by the book…

They spent over $100,000 on ads during the 2016 campaign. You can't deny that the voters were manipulated!

/s

Re: Facebook to ban misinformation on voting in upcoming U.S. elections

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post #9

The upcoming US elections may prove to be a watershed moment for modern democracies in general. There is a widely held belief in academic cycles that mass voter manipulation through social media has managed to trump all other kinds of propaganda, causing people to become electoral zombies. This belief is based on flimsy evidence and on a mountain of bias. I hope facebook and the other media do everything by the book…

I'm not sure what this comment has to do with the article. This is about targeted ads telling people they could vote by text message or that their polling place isn't safe. What does that have to do with "mass delusions" and "academic cycles"?

Re: Facebook to ban misinformation on voting in upcoming U.S. elections

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post #9

The upcoming US elections may prove to be a watershed moment for modern democracies in general. There is a widely held belief in academic cycles that mass voter manipulation through social media has managed to trump all other kinds of propaganda, causing people to become electoral zombies. This belief is based on flimsy evidence and on a mountain of bias. I hope facebook and the other media do everything by the book…

>This belief is based on flimsy evidence and on a mountain of bias...

Isn't that pretty much all political beliefs? Facebook is not so different from any other individual or organization in this regard.

Re: Facebook to ban misinformation on voting in upcoming U.S. elections

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post #9

The upcoming US elections may prove to be a watershed moment for modern democracies in general. There is a widely held belief in academic cycles that mass voter manipulation through social media has managed to trump all other kinds of propaganda, causing people to become electoral zombies. This belief is based on flimsy evidence and on a mountain of bias. I hope facebook and the other media do everything by the book…

It seems that Trump being in power has been a negative force for Facebook. I wonder if there is a legitimate business incentive for the company to manipulate the distributed information to provide an anti-conservative bias

Re: Facebook to ban misinformation on voting in upcoming U.S. elections

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Roads have speed limits. Social media can have link limits. Sure, you might be able to exceed your limit by posting to something that is patently or opinionatedly false. But how would you enforce it if a person can simply say "oops sorry I thought you knew it was a joke" or "I agree with its opinion"? Analogy: if a tree falls in the woods, does it make a sound? If you only violate a speed limit when you're caught and…

In order to prevent virality on WeChat, they impose a 100 share limit before limiting new shares to invites-only and only for people who have a linked mobile number. What this effectively means is that if WeChat detects a 'viral-event', anonymity can be squashed and those responsible for causing the viral-event can be identified and I suppose questioned at a later date on whether they are anti-government or simply ra…

Limiting to 100 is still a large exponential. In just 5 'levels' of share, it can reach about 300 million people.

Re: Facebook to ban misinformation on voting in upcoming U.S. elections

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> Months ago, senior Facebook executives briefly debated banning all political ads, which produce less than 5 percent of the company’s revenue, sources said. The company rejected that because product managers were loath to leave advertising dollars on the table... Gotta remember what's most important. /s

They are a business, after all.

> They are a business, after all.

Just like a cigarette company that doesn't want to leave money on the table from not courting youth sales.

It's a twisted idea that the logic of business success can be used to justify all kinds of destructive and harmful decisions by businesses.

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