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Study shows massive insect loss

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Re: Study shows massive insect loss

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Does anyone else find spicing up ordinary words with new cognates amusing? Super-researchers are ultraconcerned about hyperalarming insect megaloss.

It is literally what I love about the English language. You can easily generate new words that are easily understood.

In the same thought, it's completely unnecessary.

Re: Study shows massive insect loss

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post #14

Does anyone else find spicing up ordinary words with new cognates amusing? Super-researchers are ultraconcerned about hyperalarming insect megaloss.

Prefixes, not cognates.

One of the examples that coldnose offers has a suffix appended to it, so I think you're incorrect, too.

Maybe affixes?

By the way, yours is an example of Muphry's law. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muphry%27s_law

And because I'm correcting your incorrect correction, I have a feeling that I've gotten something wrong, too.

Re: Study shows massive insect loss

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post #18

I'd be more inclined to blame neonicotinoid pesticides than change in temperature, but seems plausible I guess.

Large agriculture has been an ecological disaster for decades. Pesticides, fertilizer runoff, heavy usage of herbicides, water mismanagement and foolish introductions of non-native species to counteract invasive pests making situations worse.

Pollution, pollution, pollution. Is climate change making some kind of impact? Possibly. But it pales in comparison with reckless use of poisons and chemicals.

Re: Study shows massive insect loss

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First the climate came for the coral reefs, and I did not speak up because I am not a marine invertebrate. Then, the climate came for the rest of the arthropods, and I did not speak up because I only have two legs. Then, the climate came for the fishes of the sea, and I did not speak up because I do not have gills. Then, the climate came for the plants, and I did not speak up because I am not a tree. Then, the climat…

As a species humans are pretty much worse than Hitler to everything other than their pets and other human beings. It's not the climate coming after anything, it's people they are after everything... Total control and consumption of everything in sight.

Our economic system takes for granted everything that is free and is provided gratis by the environment. If we accounted for the cost to every little thing that is provided for free and paid dues to the entire environment, animals and so on, economic activity would be at a standstill and maybe we, and the environment we live in, would last a few more million years.

Re: Study shows massive insect loss

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Years ago, my family used to drive to our grandparents' village in hot, summer Friday nights. The windshield ended so pestered with dead bugs that the first task on Saturday morning was to drive the car to the river to clean it. I remember it vividly because it was so fun to wash the car with the cold river water. Last August I went stargazing with my wife. We chose a secluded area because it was far away from light…

I have similar memories from my childhood in the 80's. We lived in Savannah and would make the trek to North Georgia several times a year to visit my mom's family. I can remember the headlights illuminating a sea of bugs like a light snow and the bigger ones popping loudly on the windshield from time to time. Having a full reservoir of wiper fluid was crucial and my dad would let me scrub the windshield whenever we stopped for gas.

I drive down to the Georgia coast or down to the gulf through Lower Alabama a least a couple times every year and it's rare to have anything of real size burst on the windshield.

Re: Study shows massive insect loss

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Years ago, my family used to drive to our grandparents' village in hot, summer Friday nights. The windshield ended so pestered with dead bugs that the first task on Saturday morning was to drive the car to the river to clean it. I remember it vividly because it was so fun to wash the car with the cold river water. Last August I went stargazing with my wife. We chose a secluded area because it was far away from light…

It's such a minor thing when it comes to our day to day but becomes truly terrifying when you put it all together and look at the big picture. I've noticed the same thing about wild-life in general whenever I visit my favorite places from childhood - whether it's the reefs around Australia, the tide pools in Baja, or the inland empire desert I grew up in. Looking at actual research just makes it worse: a third of microorganisms in the upper marine layer have died off from pollution, almost all species considered keystone predators are gone or going extinct, and the climate is jumping off a cliff.

At first I thought it was an effect of aging (changes in nostalgia and awareness) but after moving back to one of the cities I lived in and talking to the local bird watching society, it seems to be happening everywhere on massive scales.

And so, slowly, we boil.

Re: Study shows massive insect loss

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post #16
post #9

First the climate came for the coral reefs, and I did not speak up because I am not a marine invertebrate. Then, the climate came for the rest of the arthropods, and I did not speak up because I only have two legs. Then, the climate came for the fishes of the sea, and I did not speak up because I do not have gills. Then, the climate came for the plants, and I did not speak up because I am not a tree. Then, the climat…

Actually, the earth will kill us, the rich will survive in their underground bunkers, in a few hundred years, it'll clean itself off and we will rise again.

Reminds me of Chrono Trigger...

http://chrono.wikia.com/wiki/Antiquity

Re: Study shows massive insect loss

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re: "Lister and Garcia attribute this crash to climate. In the same 40-year period as the arthropod crash, the average high temperature in the rain forest increased by 4 degrees Fahrenheit. The temperatures in the tropics stick to a narrow band. The invertebrates that live there, likewise, are adapted to these temperatures and fare poorly outside them; bugs cannot regulate their internal heat." No doubt, this is alar…

The study cited in the paper was carried out on Puerto Rico. There isn't exactly another more suitable climate to migrate to.

Couldn't they just move down range from El Yunque to, say, the Morovis area?

Re: Study shows massive insect loss

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> The invertebrates that live there, likewise, are adapted to these temperatures and fare poorly outside them; bugs cannot regulate their internal heat.

This makes me think that the insects which do survive will be better adapted to the higher temperatures. Hopefully the change is slow enough they have time to adapt. And this is nothing to say about the impact of that adaptation time on other species...

Re: Study shows massive insect loss

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Yes. Has been in the news since a few years.

More than 75 percent decline over 27 years in total flying insect biomass in protected areas

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal...

Connected?

Glyphosate perturbs the gut microbiota of honey bees http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2018/09/18/1803880115

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