I felt ill just looking at the office plan in the lead picture (your keyboard slots in between two monitors facing the other way...).
Are there places in SV with open offices that dense?
The highest paid workers in Silicon Valley are product managers (2016)
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Re: The highest paid workers in Silicon Valley are product managers (2016)
#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
Make sure to keep coding in your spare time. I'm trying to get back to dev work now after 5 years in management land, and I'm finding it difficult to get back to my prior level of productivity. Coding skills age pretty quickly.
I have refused to go into management precisely to avoid what you are experiencing. My wages have somewhat stagnated because of this, and most of my working acquaintances have moved up, but they are miserable in comparison. Yes, they make more, in some cases much more, but after being in IT for over 20 years, I desire my "8-4 M-F no work nights/no work weekends" life more than I do a little extra coin. I go home and d…
To each is own, for sure. I have the exact opposite philosophy. I would rather my kids see me as someone who is trying to achieve something big. After a while, they have their own interests and don’t want to do projects with you anyway.
Re: The highest paid workers in Silicon Valley are product managers (2016)
#53Article is from 2016...
Re: The highest paid workers in Silicon Valley are product managers (2016)
#54You have to adjust for seniority. For example, new grads are not usually hired into PM roles. If you compare a Ln SWE to a Ln PM (at least at FAANG companies where I have experience) SWE's will almost always earn more than PMs
Ln?
Re: The highest paid workers in Silicon Valley are product managers (2016)
#55This is a stupid use of averages. PMs come in a little senior to rank and file programmers. That doesn't mean that a PM of ten years experience makes more than a programmer of ten years.
Indeed PMs are actually generally undercompensated relative to their importance to a company.
Re: The highest paid workers in Silicon Valley are product managers (2016)
#56What about engineering managers? I’m betting the average tops both PMs and SWEs.
Re: The highest paid workers in Silicon Valley are product managers (2016)
#57I felt ill just looking at the office plan in the lead picture (your keyboard slots in between two monitors facing the other way...). Are there places in SV with open offices that dense?
Agreed. The pic looks more like a university resource center / library / computer lab.
Re: The highest paid workers in Silicon Valley are product managers (2016)
#58You have to adjust for seniority. For example, new grads are not usually hired into PM roles. If you compare a Ln SWE to a Ln PM (at least at FAANG companies where I have experience) SWE's will almost always earn more than PMs
Ln?
Level N, e.g. Level 1 for new hire, level 5 for principal, etc
Re: The highest paid workers in Silicon Valley are product managers (2016)
#59In other news, CEOs are the highest paid workers in Silicon Valley. This is a seniority thing not a "this function is more valuable" thing.
I'm still not convinced that the average CEO actually does any work. So calling them a "worker" is a stretch.