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Texas sends Amazon a $269M uncollected sales tax bill

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Re: Texas sends Amazon a $269M uncollected sales tax bill

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Looks like amazon needs to hire google's accountant.

Given that Amazon was founded in Seattle for tax reasons, I suspect Bezos is just as smart as Google in this case.

Yep. I suspect the state's claim won't stand when it's all hashed out, but that'll probably be after the next election...

Re: Texas sends Amazon a $269M uncollected sales tax bill

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Given that Amazon was founded in Seattle for tax reasons, I suspect Bezos is just as smart as Google in this case.

Yep. I suspect the state's claim won't stand when it's all hashed out, but that'll probably be after the next election...

Amazon will undoubtedly settle. Texas is trying to close a budget short fall for the next cycle that begins in 2011. Amazon has a distribution center in Texas and Texas believes that means they have a nexus of operations. Amazon disagrees. Texas wants/needs money and Amazon certainly doesn't want the court to rule that they are subject to paying sales tax because their distribution constitutes sufficient operations to conclude they do business in Texas. Therefore, my prediction: settlement.

Re: Texas sends Amazon a $269M uncollected sales tax bill

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You wonder how Texas would even know what amount to bill. That works out to $4.3 billion dollars in sales at a 6.25% tax rate.

Because the state audited Amazon. FTFA: "Amazon.com was audited for sales tax covering the time period of December 2005 to December 2009. They were assessed a liability and billed in August 2010. The company has requested a re-determination which means this is an ongoing audit and could be decided as part of the administrative hearings process. The company would send documents and this process will continue."

Hey, that wasn't in the article when I read it!

Re: Texas sends Amazon a $269M uncollected sales tax bill

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These are the warning shots. As commerce increasingly goes to the web, hungry states will be tapping more companies for a piece of the action.

I can't help but be sympathetic to local businesses though - lack of sales tax probably pushes a lot of their former customers towards online shopping; and to be fair, it is an unfair playing field (after all, the brick and mortars can't very well stop charging sales tax).

I for one order all of my expensive hardware from out of state...

Re: Texas sends Amazon a $269M uncollected sales tax bill

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Isn't interstate commerce non-taxable, as per the constitution?

As long as there is more than one lawyer on the planet it won't be that simple.

Amazon has fulfillment centers in Texas and a subsidiary as well. This may be sufficient to trigger Texas' state sales tax laws.

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Isn't interstate commerce non-taxable, as per the constitution?

As long as there is more than one lawyer on the planet it won't be that simple. Amazon has fulfillment centers in Texas and a subsidiary as well. This may be sufficient to trigger Texas' state sales tax laws.

I wonder how long it will be before all the data centers move to places like the Bahamas...

Re: Texas sends Amazon a $269M uncollected sales tax bill

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You wonder how Texas would even know what amount to bill. That works out to $4.3 billion dollars in sales at a 6.25% tax rate.

Or it could be a $269MM fine on top of a one cent tax bill.

You know things have gotten bad when that actually sounds like a feasible possibility.

Re: Texas sends Amazon a $269M uncollected sales tax bill

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These are the warning shots. As commerce increasingly goes to the web, hungry states will be tapping more companies for a piece of the action.

I can't help but be sympathetic to local businesses though - lack of sales tax probably pushes a lot of their former customers towards online shopping; and to be fair, it is an unfair playing field (after all, the brick and mortars can't very well stop charging sales tax). I for one order all of my expensive hardware from out of state...

Well, there's the shipping rate that people have to pay.
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