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Re: Amazon to add "lending" feature to Kindle

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post #8

I recognize that I'm posting an article by Cracked here, but anybody who's a regular reader knows that Cracked hits the nail on the head at least 2% of the time. They recently had an article about the future and artificial scarcity (using a colorful acronym), and this is a perfect example. You don't have to "lend" books, you can just make a digital copy and give it to your friend. Anything less than that is software…

F. Waaaaaaaaait a second. Why would the author write a book of which he can only sell 1 copy? There is no book.

G. Waaaaaaaaaaaait a second. People currently write books and software and distribute them free.

Re: Amazon to add "lending" feature to Kindle

#12
As long as the publishers have a say, this feature doesn't matter. Don't believe me? Look at the Nook. I've bought over 30 books on it, 2 of them have the LendMe feature.

For books I expect to share and re-read, I'm back to the physical copy. The only new ebooks I'm getting are the disposable fiction stories; which is probably the business model Amazon/BN have in mind and why we're still years away from a reasonable digital reader solution.

Re: Amazon to add "lending" feature to Kindle

#13
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

F. Waaaaaaaaait a second. Why would the author write a book of which he can only sell 1 copy? There is no book.

G. Waaaaaaaaaaaait a second. People currently write books and software and distribute them free.

Out of the books I've read in the last 5 years, I believe the only ones that were free were those whose copyright had expired. Yes, there's lots of good free software, but that's most often because the software, once written, scratched an itch for someone. The same phenomenon doesn't really exist with books: nearly nobody writes books for themselves; we write books to share our knowledge, stories, and opinions with others.

Re: Amazon to add "lending" feature to Kindle

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post #3

Why can't we model it like a real book? Even if they limit it to owner -> borrower -> owner, it'd be great to just not have time limits. A market will be created in any case.

I've never really understood this limitation. It doesn't exist for physical books (of which I've bought plenty), and it's the one thing that held me back from buying a Nook.

Re: Amazon to add "lending" feature to Kindle

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

F. Waaaaaaaaait a second. Why would the author write a book of which he can only sell 1 copy? There is no book.

G. Waaaaaaaaaaaait a second. People currently write books and software and distribute them free.

What do you do for a living?

Re: Amazon to add "lending" feature to Kindle

#16
post #8

I recognize that I'm posting an article by Cracked here, but anybody who's a regular reader knows that Cracked hits the nail on the head at least 2% of the time. They recently had an article about the future and artificial scarcity (using a colorful acronym), and this is a perfect example. You don't have to "lend" books, you can just make a digital copy and give it to your friend. Anything less than that is software…

F. Waaaaaaaaait a second. Why would the author write a book of which he can only sell 1 copy? There is no book.

Ask for money, get money (or pledges), write book, distribute book.

Re: Amazon to add "lending" feature to Kindle

#17
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

G. Waaaaaaaaaaaait a second. People currently write books and software and distribute them free.

What do you do for a living?

I write software and give it away for free, how about you? :P

Also, there's a whole culture of free fiction on the internet. It's pretty huge, although most of it is crap, there are some real nuggets of goodness out there.

Of course, most of the stuff people charge for is crap, too.

Re: Amazon to add "lending" feature to Kindle

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

G. Waaaaaaaaaaaait a second. People currently write books and software and distribute them free.

Out of the books I've read in the last 5 years, I believe the only ones that were free were those whose copyright had expired. Yes, there's lots of good free software, but that's most often because the software, once written, scratched an itch for someone. The same phenomenon doesn't really exist with books: nearly nobody writes books for themselves; we write books to share our knowledge, stories, and opinions with o…

The same phenomenon doesn't really exist with books

I would argue that a budding hobby novelist culture already exists, and will only grow, just like the free software movement did.

Heck, we're already seeing open source movies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source_film

Re: Amazon to add "lending" feature to Kindle

#19
post #7

The main problem that I have with the Kindle is not the lack of lending. What I want more than anything for the Kindle is support for ePub books, including DRMed ePubs. The Kindle would be enormously useful to me if I could navigate to my library's website, check out an eBook, and read it right on my Kindle.

My kingdom for proper ePub support!

Re: Amazon to add "lending" feature to Kindle

#20
post #9

>Each book can be lent once for a loan period of 14-days... Only once? People won't enjoy that.

Little steps and all that. I know it comes as a shock to a lot of the internet generation but most business have a hell of a hard time changing their business model and surviving it, the bigger the company the harder it becomes as with everything in life.

This is a little step but it is down the right path. As much as we would all love to have the same abilities as we do with physical copies of books going the full wack of unlimited lending for unlimited timeframes is most likely too big of a shock for publishers to deal with. Hell we don't even have a legal way to do this with iTunes, Amazon MP3, and other online media services (at least not that I am aware of? please correct me if I am wrong, note I said legal, technically it is possible as there is no DRM but legally there is no way, it could be argued this is true for physical media too due to the "license" on the inside of the CD, DVD, or whatever it is you bought but no court would ever actually follow thru on that however sharing MP3s online doesn't get the same treatment, go figure).

Anyway back to my point, I am pretty sure in time limitations will be lifted, maybe not to the same as you get with physical media but pretty close. One thing that is the same, if you lend a friend a book you certainly can't keep reading! It would have been pretty cool (and a much bigger deal IMHO) if the publishers used this as a marketing tool for word of mouth advertising by letting you "lend" the book to a friend while you can still read it but limit the lending limit to 14 days (or N number of chapters, which is better in IMHO as people read at different speeds, only at the weekends, etc. Time limits are a pain in the ass whereas content limits make it a lot more user friendly, at least to me it does, it is also much easier to manage, no clever ways to check when it has been 14 days (dealing with users who never connect to wifi and just set the date back, etc), no hacks to have to patch in the next firmware update, etc. just lend the friend 50% of the book, not 100% but with a digital lock around it that will be broken before even 1% of the user base upgrades their firmware) That way they can probably exploit the "omg I just got this amazing book you should sooo buy it" factor when someone first gets a book but hasn't finished it yet so won't lend it to a friend, then they forget or it is crap and they just dump it in a book store and the publisher never gets to sell that friend a copy.

Just my 2c

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