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Food Scientists Are Getting Fed Up with Picky Eaters

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Re: Food Scientists Are Getting Fed Up with Picky Eaters

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This might be an unpopular opinion, but I think it’s great that processed food manufacturers are trying to replace synthetic ingredients with actual food. I don’t see a problem here.

What exactly is the benefit of replacing Red #40 with red cabbage extract?

Red cabbage has been experimentally tested for far longer, and by far more people, than Red #40. I'm inclined to trust it more.

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What exactly is the benefit of replacing Red #40 with red cabbage extract?

Well, potentially quite a lot of benefit: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/food-dyes-linked-to-allergies-a...

The actual report seems rather weak. Some people have an allergic reaction to it, and some mouses may have tumors growing a bit faster - when over 5%(!) of their diet is red dye - and only in one of the three studies.

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post #9

From Albania here, (2nd world European country, aka still developing). Due to its mediterranean weather (1), everything raised locally tastes better. Local food is full of flavor, and things made artisan-ally and locally are still good. Even something simple like a 'Tiramisu' tastes better there, most likely because things are still made to be consumed within a day, and not last for ages. Other countries are similar…

Not-so-southern Italy here, only to add a data point I just got (for free) two crates of fruit (small apples) from a farmer nearby because they were too small (below "standard") to be sold to the usual wholesaler.

These apples (besides their small size) are simply delicious, but they wouldn't be sold in a supermarket as they are not "pretty" and do not represent the "ideal" apple that people expect.

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post #9

From Albania here, (2nd world European country, aka still developing). Due to its mediterranean weather (1), everything raised locally tastes better. Local food is full of flavor, and things made artisan-ally and locally are still good. Even something simple like a 'Tiramisu' tastes better there, most likely because things are still made to be consumed within a day, and not last for ages. Other countries are similar…

Some western countries (or portions thereof) have locally-grown food as the norm, too. California, for example, certainly imports quite a bit of food, but also is a major food exporter (and for some produce is the only significant exporter worldwide, let alone in the rest of the US). Being able to grow practically any kind of fruit or vegetable or grain was something I took for granted growing up in the Central Valley, as I did the ability to grow one's own food (my family didn't grow any staples ourselves, but we did have an orchard that gave us more fruit than we could hope to eat, at least when it was in season).

I agree that locally-grown tastes better. Yeah, there are skeptics that claim it's just our imagination or whatever, but if you're shipping food thousands of miles over land and sea, by the time it reaches your plate it's inevitably going to have gone through wild climate swings and mechanical stress that are bound to affect the flavor, even if subtly. And that's assuming the food started out identically; locally grown cultivars/varieties of crops are often different from the ones grown further away (and in fact, a lot of fruits and vegetables grown for worldwide distribution are specifically bred to better survive transit; locally-grown-and-consumed crops don't need to account for that and can focus on size or flavor or texture or whatever other quality might be desirable for a local market).

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post #59
post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's a cognitive reaction to safety. Fear is certainly there due to the unknown. People will retreat to what they feel is safe and easy to understand i.e. "natural" food. Little do they know natural food is GMO! The crops that survived today did so by natural genetic mutations for the crops that had the best ability to survive. Humans just took advantage of that fact and sped up the process a bit to our advan…

This is not a very good argument. You could easily repurpose it to claim that nuclear weapons are nothing to be feared... After all, radioactive uranium and even nuclear reactors happen naturally, humans just optimise the process a bit!

Nuclear reactors happen(ed) naturally, but weapons-grade uranium/plutonium does not, last I checked.

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post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is not a very good argument. You could easily repurpose it to claim that nuclear weapons are nothing to be feared... After all, radioactive uranium and even nuclear reactors happen naturally, humans just optimise the process a bit!

Nuclear reactors happen(ed) naturally, but weapons-grade uranium/plutonium does not, last I checked.

Obviously, that's why this argument is bad. Natural food happens naturally, GMO doesn't.

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post #18

Could this be a food industry backed opinion piece? The lobbyist could then say: Look, people misunderstand things like dihydrogen monoxide. What should we do with the ingredient list? Perhaps we should have the freedom not to mention scary sounding ingredients?

Nah, just start requiring a 14 page fold out on all food like we do on medication. Then you can explain that dihydrogen monoxide is perfectly safe, assuming you don't inhale it into your lungs or similar provisos. Although dihydrogen monoxide poisoning is possible, it is quite rare and known cases tend to be limited to military recruits force fed excessive amounts of it in training due to a track record of under consuming it impairing their functioning.

The law can include an exception for sufficiently small items. The 14 pages of info can go on a website and the item in question can have a URL and QR code.

(Do I need a sarcasm tag here? Inquiring minds want to know.)

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post #30

I truly think this is because picky eaters are easy to market to; they pay attention to flashy advertising rather then hard science. We have an entire generation of people that think GMOs are somehow harmful and also ignore the tremendous environmental impact of so called organic foods. The same people taking birth control are reaching for grass fed hormone free milk and beef.

I think it's a cognitive reaction to safety. Fear is certainly there due to the unknown. People will retreat to what they feel is safe and easy to understand i.e. "natural" food. Little do they know natural food is GMO! The crops that survived today did so by natural genetic mutations for the crops that had the best ability to survive. Humans just took advantage of that fact and sped up the process a bit to our advan…

Humans have been breeding plants and animals to try to enhance specific traits for a really long time, well before it could be done in a lab.

Watermelon was originally called that because it was used as a natural form of canteen. Hundreds of years ago, the inner fruit was not sweet and tasty. It was consumed solely for purposes of hydration.

https://assets.atlasobscura.com/articles/where-are-watermelo...

https://www.vox.com/2015/7/28/9050469/watermelon-breeding-pa...

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Paywall bypass: https://archive.is/Hb6NE I used: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/archiveror/

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As in intern earning in INR I'll just go ahead and spend literally 1% of my income per paywalled site out there shall I?

Siloing information to those invested enough in the field to need quality information in quantity enough to pay for access is not something I want to or can support.

I don't know a good alternative for WSJ, but I don't know a good alternative for me either.

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post #9

From Albania here, (2nd world European country, aka still developing). Due to its mediterranean weather (1), everything raised locally tastes better. Local food is full of flavor, and things made artisan-ally and locally are still good. Even something simple like a 'Tiramisu' tastes better there, most likely because things are still made to be consumed within a day, and not last for ages. Other countries are similar…

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