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How to Push Past the Pain, as the Champions Do

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Re: How to Push Past the Pain, as the Champions Do

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> Any tips on learning to enjoy running? Run cross-country, or better yet, try another sport like cycling or long-distance/cross-country rollerskating.

It's an acquired taste. It's like first time you try espresso and you hate it, and then you're like "hey, espresso!" so you drink more, and then you finally love it.

Also like espresso, it is more harmful to the body parts involved than alternatives.

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(short: run faster); My experience is: most important: trust your inner voice, don't demand too much of yourself (be gentle and forgiving to yourself); BUT ALSO "no pain, no gain", run every(!) day at least one hour, run faster until you feel slightly(!) uncomfortable, push yourself a bit, and then try to hold your speed longer and longer (3, 5, 10, 15, ... minutes this is essential for experiencing runner's high ),…

Stretching after exercise can be harmful to recovery, actually. A massage is OK, but stretching should not be done until at least several hours later and preferably the next day.

Is this your own experience? I have never had any problems because of stretching after running, it feels very good, it takes the tension out of my muscles, loosens them. I've met another runner, and we did that after running automatically. Rhythm: 20 secs, short pause and 20 secs again.

Re: How to Push Past the Pain, as the Champions Do

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(short: run faster); My experience is: most important: trust your inner voice, don't demand too much of yourself (be gentle and forgiving to yourself); BUT ALSO "no pain, no gain", run every(!) day at least one hour, run faster until you feel slightly(!) uncomfortable, push yourself a bit, and then try to hold your speed longer and longer (3, 5, 10, 15, ... minutes this is essential for experiencing runner's high ),…

Oh, God...that is not worth it! ;)

It sounds harder than it actually is, you can always adapt to your personal situation, but if one always does only 15 minutes "jog, jog, jog", two times a week, without challenging himself and higher-tempo parts, that will not be enough for "runner's high". One has to put some effort into it, before you can reap.

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> and trained with some of the best. If you don't mind me asking, what were your PRs? I got lapped on a mile in high school (the guy ran a sub-5!) Have you read Once a Runner? Was that what your training life was like? Interesting offshoot - The whole point of training 20 hours a week for the Ironman triathlon (2.4 mile swim, 112 mile bike, 26.2 mile marathon) is so that the body never goes anaerobic during the actua…

PRs: 5K 14:53, 10K XC: 30:29 all from college. Nothing fancy compared to people I trained with. I've read Once a Runner a long time ago. Training life is similar - it's all consuming really. In many ways it's like a job and a way of life. Since I gave up running and got on with my life, I still train and compete competitively - even low key competition is enough to keep things interesting and motivating even though i…

Nice. It must be a thrill to be able to win your local 10-K if you want to.

Re: How to Push Past the Pain, as the Champions Do

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Stretching after exercise can be harmful to recovery, actually. A massage is OK, but stretching should not be done until at least several hours later and preferably the next day.

Is this your own experience? I have never had any problems because of stretching after running, it feels very good, it takes the tension out of my muscles, loosens them. I've met another runner, and we did that after running automatically. Rhythm: 20 secs, short pause and 20 secs again.

The theory is that stretching after exercise worsens the muscular microdamage beyond what can be repaired during the normal recovery cycle.

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That's funny, the picture that you are using for a GPS receiver is a Magellan Explorist 210, it's the GPS that I've been using for biking for the last few years. But I don't think that it's compatible with your service.

Haha nice pointing that out - our old designer put that together, and I don't think he was fully aware of compatibility issues :) Thanks for pointing it out. However, you can still use the magellen, you just can't directly sync with the site using Garmin Communicator. Uploading a GPX or KML you pull off the unit manually will still work.

Awesome, thanks :)

Re: How to Push Past the Pain, as the Champions Do

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Is this your own experience? I have never had any problems because of stretching after running, it feels very good, it takes the tension out of my muscles, loosens them. I've met another runner, and we did that after running automatically. Rhythm: 20 secs, short pause and 20 secs again.

The theory is that stretching after exercise worsens the muscular microdamage beyond what can be repaired during the normal recovery cycle.

Whose theory is that? My source of information (book "Ernaehrung und Training" by Dr. W. Feil and Dr. T. Wessinghage [european champion over 5000m in 1982]) clearly states, that "stretching [immediately after sport] is the gate of regeneration".
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