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Re: The Google+ project and exec team

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Wow, on one hand - pretty interesting read in a sense that tabloids are interesting, but boy, you should never do that. It’s not just burning the bridges, it is not a very good signal to your potential employers, partners, acquirers, employees... Imagine public outcry if it went the other way: if managers hung out dirty laundry on employees who were not up to snuff.

Also, about contractors in pivotal roles. The author was relatively new to for-profit industry and it happens way more often than one may think. People who go the contractor route are usually senior and experienced enough to be confident in getting and keeping the gigs, as the barrier to getting rid of a contractor is very low.

Re: The Google+ project and exec team

#93
I'm s bit sad at the end of the article. Sounds to me like a great designer, with good ideas and some genuine leadership skills. But the article itself is so full of anger and resentment that I really wonder what it would be like to work with the author. Looks like nobody has taken the time or given him the opportunity to learn how to navigate trough BS and handle it.

Saying NO, being political, negotiating. . . Not very surprising if he indeed had such bad managers.

Still, feels like wasted time and resources for everybody. I hope he is doing OK now.

Re: The Google+ project and exec team

#94
post #42

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Bait and switch, where they try to convince you to take a lowball offer because you'll work on prestigious projects like Chrome, then turn around and put you on G+ is most definitely a punch. Just because it happens (regularly) doesn't mean you should just roll over and take it. There could be inaccuracies here, it's a twitter rant after all, but as presented, that would demoralize a lot of people. You don't have to…

Then reject the job offer? Would you take up the job if the salary was reduced on day one? Some devs would roll with lower salary, some with different projects. You can still call the shots instead of going ahead and whinging publically

> Would you take up the job if the salary was reduced on day one?

This is a labor law violation, because it's obvious, even to government regulators, that it's unfair to the employee. I would hope everybody would object to labor law violations on their first day of work.

Re: The Google+ project and exec team

#95
post #62

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To me, it sounded like they all reported to Greg.

Jim had seniority and apparently more clout. Just because OP wasn't directly reporting to Jim doesn't mean Jim wasn't a superior.

Hm, odd definition of superior, but I work at a place where levels are secret and titles only reflect function.

Re: The Google+ project and exec team

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post #53

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Ranting makes people seem unbalanced. Especially ranting on Twitter.

For me it looks that he is a human being with genuine emotions, that he’s passionate about his work and not yet a complete corporate drone.

Twitter has become our society's Rorschach test of character. This rant will earn him both detractors and admirers.

Re: The Google+ project and exec team

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Controversial opinion here. I know that exaggerating and complaining is a surefire way to get clicks, but it's hard to take the author's criticisms seriously when he complains about so many different things. Some as minor as the noogler orientation. Others as petty as putting down colleagues who haven't worked as designers before. Regarding the main event in question: I like that Google allows people to party in the…

It was a hard lesson for me to learn in the past: if you care wildly more than the people around you -- so much that you work late into the night while your grandmother is dying and your coworkers are pounding drinks with their counterparts at a competitor -- you'll just end up really hurt and frustrated and they'll all think that you are the problem. The author seems like the kind of person that I'd love to do a 3-p…

and they'll all think that you are the problem.

Agreed.

Re: The Google+ project and exec team

#99
post #19

I tried reading this, but it is just stream of consciousness writing and littered with unnecessary details. It comes across as petty and the author doesn't seem to be good at communicating what he wants. For instance, he's whining about a 9am meeting with a coworker. If it's such a big deal, why didn't you ask for a later meeting?

Tweet-storm stories always feel like that: disorganized, erratic, frantic, extremely unpleasant to read.
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