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Facebook Says Hackers Stole Detailed Personal Data from 14M People

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Re: Facebook Says Hackers Stole Detailed Personal Data from 14M People

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> name, email address and phone number I kind of work on the assumption that those things are largely public. I mean, phone books were a thing for a very long time. Don't get me wrong, leak bad, very bad, but they didn't leak my bank accounts or a list of my worst fears.

Did you read the article? "For 14 million people, the attackers accessed the same two sets of information, as well as other details people had on their profiles. This included username, gender, locale/language, relationship status, religion, hometown, self-reported current city, birthdate, device types used to access Facebook, education, work, the last 10 places they checked into or were tagged in, website, people or…

On top of people wanting privacy about that stuff, there’s also probably enough there to get through a lot of “password recovery questions”, for sites that have those. Especially if they can get similar info about your family (through the same FB breach).

Too often an email address plus correct answers to questions like “what’s your mother’s birthplace?”, “what’s your fathers middle name?”, “what’s your favourite hockey team” are used to prove identity online, and these types of questions could be very answerable from this breach.

Re: Facebook Says Hackers Stole Detailed Personal Data from 14M People

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This is why I hate not having custom security questions from Banks. What is my fathers middle name? Well, if you have facebook and he puts it up there you can find out. I have no control over that. I could start using fake answers but trying to remember the fake answers vs real answers is tough. Whereas when I get a custom question I have a custom answer that I will always remember. Such as made up on the spot Name o…

PSA: Woah.wait. I just thought since personal data of about ~30 million people was leaked, most of them would be having Gmail accounts. So, isn't Gmail under threat too? I think GOOGLE should also issue an advisory asking people to change their security questions. Did I miss something?

Google has been actively trying to get people to stop using security questions in favour of various kinds of two-factor for quite some time now (mainly mobile phone number based stuff). They'll be fine.

Re: Facebook Says Hackers Stole Detailed Personal Data from 14M People

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I use KeePass for password management and the way I handle this is I generate a random string for each security question answer, then just include it in the Notes field of the entry.

I don't understand what this buys you. If you have access to your password vault, why do you need the security questions? If you lose access to the vault, don't you lose the account?

These questions are often required to be answered and some places, like vanguard, use them as a form of 2fa. Additionally, it's possible for the bank to reset passwords for some reason (hack, error, etc) and still keep these around. The point is no longer account recovery, that's correct, but it does buy you a lot of things.

Re: Facebook Says Hackers Stole Detailed Personal Data from 14M People

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I guess I don't really understand the frustration of some people. I do but I don't. I don't have a facebook account, or instagram, or any social media, haven't had one in many years. No one NEEDS to have one. I guess to me, if you don't want this info to be exposed, just don't have an account. Assume the worst can happen. This is not like other sites, I get that you're "trusting" them with your info, but you are willingly putting your information there, just don't.

Re: Facebook Says Hackers Stole Detailed Personal Data from 14M People

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Logged in today and found: "[name], we have more information about the security incident we discovered on September 25, 2018. An unauthorized third party accessed your name, email address and phone number. We acted quickly to secure the site and took action to protect your account, and we're working closely with law enforcement to address the incident." Ridiculous.

If a business model of a company is based on monetizing user data, it seems only fair that in cases like this flow of the money is reversed - from Facebook to users.

Otherwise it seems that big tech has limited risk and huge upside.

edit: 40acres put it more eloquently - Regulation is coming. If data is the new oil these are the oil spills that lead to the EPA.

Re: Facebook Says Hackers Stole Detailed Personal Data from 14M People

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That's one of the numerous reasons I'll never use fb as a payment or ecommerce platform when they launch these products.

You do know that Shopify is owned by Facebook? It's already happening. A lot of custom online shops use this platform to run their business.

Re: Facebook Says Hackers Stole Detailed Personal Data from 14M People

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Did you read the article? "For 14 million people, the attackers accessed the same two sets of information, as well as other details people had on their profiles. This included username, gender, locale/language, relationship status, religion, hometown, self-reported current city, birthdate, device types used to access Facebook, education, work, the last 10 places they checked into or were tagged in, website, people or…

FYI people will downvote you for suggesting someone hasn't read the post. (And I don't think it was necessary to make your point.) HN guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html >Please don't insinuate that someone hasn't read an article.

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Re: Facebook Says Hackers Stole Detailed Personal Data from 14M People

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post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you read the article? "For 14 million people, the attackers accessed the same two sets of information, as well as other details people had on their profiles. This included username, gender, locale/language, relationship status, religion, hometown, self-reported current city, birthdate, device types used to access Facebook, education, work, the last 10 places they checked into or were tagged in, website, people or…

FYI people will downvote you for suggesting someone hasn't read the post. (And I don't think it was necessary to make your point.) HN guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html >Please don't insinuate that someone hasn't read an article.

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Re: Facebook Says Hackers Stole Detailed Personal Data from 14M People

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Facebook posting: https://newsroom.fb.com/news/2018/10/update-on-security-issu... Check if you are affected here: https://www.facebook.com/help/securitynotice (posting because it took 10+ mins to find it - many media outlets are not linking directly to it)

Here's the discussion on the Facebook post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18202589.
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