Oil droplets guided by pilot waves do not give rise to double-slit interference

Post by effie » Fri, Oct 12, 2018, 4:01 PM UTC

naasking wrote: post #73

twtw wrote: post #58

Bohm's pilot wave theory is interesting to me not because it is so intuitive or tasteful or something, but because it works without sacrificing realism, and thus demonstrates that the Cophenhagen interpretation (neither local nor real) claims strictly more about the nature of the universe than is required by the evidence we have. Nonlocality is established by experiment, non-realism is not. In my experience, this ten…

> I personally favor epistemological interpretations, in which the wave function models our knowledge These have been largely ruled out via no-go theorems [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PBR_theorem

Post by dumbfoundded » Fri, Oct 12, 2018, 4:56 PM UTC

uryga wrote: post #71

perl4ever wrote: post #19

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But are those ordered pairs or sets of two items each?

I think of them as ordered pairs, but would it change anything if they were sets? Order doesn't matter in this question.

Post by dumbfoundded » Fri, Oct 12, 2018, 5:02 PM UTC

Sean1708 wrote: post #38

dumbfoundded wrote: post #16

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It's not a paradox if you put it in less confusing language. There are 4 possibilities: GG GB BG BB GG is impossible so you have GB, BG, & BB. One of them is a B, what's the other. Well that's clearly 2 / 3 G. The other one situation is completely. It's basically just the chance of a child being a girl.

Is this basically to do with the fact that you know how likely it is to see a boy given any of the combinations? So there's a 33% chance that there are two boys and you see a boy, a 33% chance that there's a boy and girl and you see a boy, and a 33% chance that there's a boy and a girl and you see a girl. Given that you've seen the boy you've eliminated one of the outcomes so the other two outcomes are equally likely…

Post by kgwgk » Fri, Oct 12, 2018, 5:58 PM UTC

platz wrote: post #116

kgwgk wrote: post #114

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The only reason why that particular research professor is not “just” a professor is that he was denied tenure at the University of Chicago.

irrelevant - what is the endgame of what you are trying to drive at in this thread?

Post by whatshisface » Fri, Oct 12, 2018, 6:41 PM UTC

effie wrote: post #112

whatshisface wrote: post #100

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The order of events is fair game to reverse so long as they are far enough away from each other that one couldn't have caused the other. The order of pairs of events like that reverse all the time. It's only a time paradox if you can actually do something paradoxical, like killing your grandfather.

> if you can actually do something paradoxical, like killing your grandfather. ... before certain crucial event in his life, you mean, I assume. How exactly does having a superluminal telephone imply I could change history? Changing history is the paradoxical part - don't assume it can happen.