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HP Slate Officially Launches for $799

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Re: HP Slate Officially Launches for $799

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Here's one of their promo videos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xX-B2wG1e4&feature=playe...

Thanks for the promo link. It appears their target audience are people who need to write things while having a full blown OS. I teach math and tablet PCs have been a great help. People simply do not type math or read typed mathematics well. I'm a heavy user of Captivate and Camtasia and this is the sort of tablet I need.

Re: HP Slate Officially Launches for $799

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Fantastic. A touch-screen with small buttons, stock Windows 7. Ships with IE8. $200-$300 more than an iPad: you could buy a netbook and an iPad for the same price. WTF? Total shit. Who wants Windows 7 on a tablet?

I'm a heavy user of Captivate and Camtasia and I teach math. I need digital ink for my classes. It allows me to markup graphs and all other documents. I would be a user of this tablet. I think the greatest shortcoming of the iPad is the lack of digital ink and native pen support. Also, screen recording apps.

From the promo videos it seems that this device is targeting vertical markets.

Re: HP Slate Officially Launches for $799

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That video makes it look even worse. Don't they realize that people can type faster than they can write with a pen? It took that guy a long time to pull out the pen, write "Rear Light" and put the pen back. Should have been <2 seconds with a touch keyboard.

It's just so weird! It's like they are advertising to an alternate universe where the iPad, iPhone, iPod touch don't exist. I can't believe how slow and laggy it looks in their own video . How can they not see this?

I actually laughed out loud when the doctor zoomed in on the x-ray and there was visible lag and tearing as the screen refreshed. That's the best shot they could come up with to show off zoom!?

Re: HP Slate Officially Launches for $799

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That video makes it look even worse. Don't they realize that people can type faster than they can write with a pen? It took that guy a long time to pull out the pen, write "Rear Light" and put the pen back. Should have been <2 seconds with a touch keyboard.

Evidently you've never tried to write something like "Rear Light" one-handed on the iPad keyboard. Or, you don't have ogre fingers like I do. More seriously, the pen is pretty fantastic for things like reviewing papers. Having used tablet PCs for years and now having used an iPad for a while, I can say it takes significantly longer to annotate PDFs via iAnnotate or goodreader and either my finger or the iPad keyboard…

I just tried typing "Rear light" on my iPad with one finger of my right hand while holding the pad itself with my left hand. It took about 2 seconds. On my iPhone, with only my left hand holding it and using my left thumb to type leaving my right hand doing nothing, I can bang that phrase out in about... 2 seconds. In the promo video, it took the guy just about 5 seconds with the pen.

Not that this matters a whole lot - just adding my own data points to the discussion. :)

Re: HP Slate Officially Launches for $799

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I can predict the market response: "meh".

EDIT: I figured I should add that I have looked at the large touchscreen PCs as sold in Best Buy, etc. and while the concept looks very intriguing, playing around with them for even a few minutes shows why they would be frustrating in practice.

The UI requires too much precision - for instance, to close an application you have to stab precisely on the X in the upper right corner - there should be a modification that is either more forgiving or the X should be larger, etc.

Further, higher resolution (which should be nicer) is just as bad if not worse - as the need for precision increases.

Lastly, the focus by the big manufacturers still seems to be "stack em deep and sell em cheap" - leaving little $$$ or motivation to improve the UI to a level as good as an iPad.

I think that NotionInk.com is on to something, though when shipping product will arrive, I don't know.

Re: HP Slate Officially Launches for $799

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Can't see this doing well:

- Uncompetitive price.

- No 3G.

- Odd quilted effect on rear. Nobody's going to buy it because of that, and it will only look tacky in the long run.

- Distracting HP logo at the edge of the screen, looks bad when held vertically.

From the video linked to by BigZaphod, a lot of it is a guy working on a spreadsheet or presentation everywhere he goes. It's not exactly an inspiring scenario - there have even been cases of people choosing holiday locations for their lack of BlackBerry reception.

http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/lawyers_wrestle_with_...

Re: HP Slate Officially Launches for $799

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Fantastic. A touch-screen with small buttons, stock Windows 7. Ships with IE8. $200-$300 more than an iPad: you could buy a netbook and an iPad for the same price. WTF? Total shit. Who wants Windows 7 on a tablet?

It’s very different from an iPad and there will probably be very, very few people who will want it but there will be some (i.e. it will be about as successful as all other tablet PCs of the last decade).

If HP wants to beat the iPad – that’s how Ballmer framed it, HP doesn’t seem to see it that way – this is an unmitigated disaster. The HP Slate has potential to be a nice niche product, not to beat the iPad. Or, to put it in another way, the iPad and iPad-class devices have a shot at changing the future of computing, this has not.

Re: HP Slate Officially Launches for $799

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That video makes it look even worse. Don't they realize that people can type faster than they can write with a pen? It took that guy a long time to pull out the pen, write "Rear Light" and put the pen back. Should have been <2 seconds with a touch keyboard.

Evidently you've never tried to write something like "Rear Light" one-handed on the iPad keyboard. Or, you don't have ogre fingers like I do. More seriously, the pen is pretty fantastic for things like reviewing papers. Having used tablet PCs for years and now having used an iPad for a while, I can say it takes significantly longer to annotate PDFs via iAnnotate or goodreader and either my finger or the iPad keyboard…

I agree that the keyboard on the iPad is hard to type on, but from the looks of the video, the latency with pen writing would be even more annoying!
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