thanks for sharing, but holy slowwww
Show HN: Tableau-Like Data Visualizations in JavaScript
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#22How does this compare to Plottable, another composable visualization library? http://plottablejs.org/
Just saw plottablejs. I can make an informed comparison without using it.
However https://www.charts.com/muze/docs/composing-layers explains some part about muze's composability. And this is an example https://www.charts.com/muze/examples/view/composition-of-lay...
Apart from composable layers Muze has - tabular layout (visual crosstab) created from data facets https://www.charts.com/muze/examples/view/crosstab-chart - auto interactions https://www.charts.com/muze/examples/view/crossfiltering-wit... - Legend on any chart https://www.charts.com/muze/examples/view/gradient-legend
etc...
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#23Just saw a tweet storm of the CTO of Charts.com talking about Muze and a lot of the things make sense as to why they went with a data first model and the roadmap ahead. Link for anyone that's interested: https://twitter.com/1dot61803/status/1047384637289500673
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#24Hey everyone, I’m part of the Muze team at Charts.com. Over the years I’ve seen lots of people who struggle to find the perfect balance between low-level visualization kernel (like d3), or black-box configurable charts (HighCharts, FusionCharts). So we decided to build Muze taking a data-first approach, where you load your data in an in-browser DataModel, run relational algebra enabled data operators to get the right…
> I’ve seen lots of people who struggle to find the perfect balance between low-level visualization kernel (like d3), or black-box configurable charts (HighCharts, FusionCharts) This is the biggest pain point for me with most current solutions. Either development time is super fast (e.g., tableau, periscope) but going beyond 80% is difficult, or development time is much longer (e.g., d3 or apis thereof) but you get f…
Hey `cpsempek, Periscope Data CEO here.
In a perfect world, how would the charting in Periscope work? How would you want to go from getting 80% very fast, to going to 100%, in the same software?
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#25Holy crap that's an A-level domain. How'd you guys get it?
Great question! We have https://chart.ly which is pretty good. But charts dot com???
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#26Hey everyone, I’m part of the Muze team at Charts.com. Over the years I’ve seen lots of people who struggle to find the perfect balance between low-level visualization kernel (like d3), or black-box configurable charts (HighCharts, FusionCharts). So we decided to build Muze taking a data-first approach, where you load your data in an in-browser DataModel, run relational algebra enabled data operators to get the right…
> I’ve seen lots of people who struggle to find the perfect balance between low-level visualization kernel (like d3), or black-box configurable charts (HighCharts, FusionCharts) This is the biggest pain point for me with most current solutions. Either development time is super fast (e.g., tableau, periscope) but going beyond 80% is difficult, or development time is much longer (e.g., d3 or apis thereof) but you get f…
> The first 90 percent of the code accounts for the first 90 percent of the development time. The remaining 10 percent of the code accounts for the other 90 percent of the development time.
Now, I'm not saying that directly applies to your problems, but there's good reason this is a saying.
Going from 80% to 100% will take as long or longer as going from 0 to 80, because the last 20% is all edge cases that are a nightmare to test and mentally exhausting to comprehend.
Sometimes, it's just never cost effective to go from 80 to 100, and it's best to just leave it as is, even if there is some manual work left over.
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#27how does this compare with fusioncharts ?
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#28I'd like to know how the team made that amazing SVG-based animated banner image. That alone looks amazing!
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I’ve seen lots of people who struggle to find the perfect balance between low-level visualization kernel (like d3), or black-box configurable charts (HighCharts, FusionCharts) This is the biggest pain point for me with most current solutions. Either development time is super fast (e.g., tableau, periscope) but going beyond 80% is difficult, or development time is much longer (e.g., d3 or apis thereof) but you get f…
Hey `cpsempek, Periscope Data CEO here. In a perfect world, how would the charting in Periscope work? How would you want to go from getting 80% very fast, to going to 100%, in the same software?
Hi, thanks for the reply! Actually, apologies for throwing your name next to tableau like that. I think your product does a great job incorporating things like R/python scripting to allow more flexibility in how data can be manipulated within the product. In this sense I prefer periscope to tableau (an in many other senses actually).
A problem I encountered (granted over a year ago) was creating grouped bar charts with confidence intervals. Bars were grouped on some discrete x axis labels. The suggested solution for confidence intervals on grouped bars was to use a scatter plot to draw the confidence intervals, but this clumped them all on the xlabel position, not in the center of each bar. matplotlib for example treats the visualization as an object, in which case it makes a lot of sense that to add confidence intervals just query the bar objects for their positions and place line segments of desired widths in the center of the tops of the bars (or wherever, you have full control over this). So in general, a marriage of these two paradigms, quick development of a visualization based on data, but then the ability to switch to viewing and manipulating the visualization as a collection of instantiated objects with full control over their attributes.
I am open to revisiting over any development periscope has made to this end.
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#30Is there a plan to create a version that generate the graphs and manage all the filtering on the server side instead of having all the data in the browser? This will be very helpful for cases that uses large datasets... I built visualization using dc.js, and working with large datasets was the biggest pain point for me. http://adilmoujahid.com/posts/2016/08/interactive-data-visua...
We had plans to move DataModel (manages all data ops) to serverside. We even have a half baked DataModel in Scala which we thought we would do it once we understand some usecase. But currently we have put it on hold. We would love to know your - use case - number of data points - ops on data on serverside You can mail us to eng@charts.com
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