I can understand some of the frustration, especially for those making just shy of $15 before the raise, but even if the raise is only from $14 to $15, that still is around $2,000/yr (assuming 40 hour work week) that is guaranteed the way a bonus generally isn't. I would almost always prefer a raise over a one-time bonus for that exact reason. In my experiences, I can't always count on my company giving me a yearly bo…
That's all well and good, but Amazon replaced their bonuses for raises and then pretended like they were giving everyone an actual raise when in fact, some people could end up getting a pay cut.
Amazon says wage hike ‘more than compensates’ for loss of bonuses
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Re: Amazon says wage hike ‘more than compensates’ for loss of bonuses
#12I can understand some of the frustration, especially for those making just shy of $15 before the raise, but even if the raise is only from $14 to $15, that still is around $2,000/yr (assuming 40 hour work week) that is guaranteed the way a bonus generally isn't. I would almost always prefer a raise over a one-time bonus for that exact reason. In my experiences, I can't always count on my company giving me a yearly bo…
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#13Are bonuses incentivized? What is that incentive and how will it impact Amazon's business now it's gone?
They were generally not incentivized, but had a 2 year vesting period. That kept people working at Amazon longer for that extra few grand.
Re: Amazon says wage hike ‘more than compensates’ for loss of bonuses
#14For someone who worked at one of these jobs at Amazon for 3 years
Basic wage: X
Bonus Wage: Y
Total: X+Y
Under the new system
Basic Wage: X+Y
Bonus Wage: 0
Total Wage: X+Y
The net effect is zero but principly the value of the bonus has been reduced to nothing, after the loyalty of rhe employee and the benefits that come with that, have already been collected by the employer.
Seems somewhat unfair from that perspective, but they can do what they want I guess.
Re: Amazon says wage hike ‘more than compensates’ for loss of bonuses
#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's all well and good, but Amazon replaced their bonuses for raises and then pretended like they were giving everyone an actual raise when in fact, some people could end up getting a pay cut.
Their claim is that everyone affected by this is getting a net raise. Do you have evidence to the contrary?
Re: Amazon says wage hike ‘more than compensates’ for loss of bonuses
#16Re: Amazon says wage hike ‘more than compensates’ for loss of bonuses
#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's all well and good, but Amazon replaced their bonuses for raises and then pretended like they were giving everyone an actual raise when in fact, some people could end up getting a pay cut.
Their claim is that everyone affected by this is getting a net raise. Do you have evidence to the contrary?
"Those making, say, $14 an hour prior to the increase may only receive a $1 raise, which fails to make up for the loss of benefits."
Re: Amazon says wage hike ‘more than compensates’ for loss of bonuses
#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's all well and good, but Amazon replaced their bonuses for raises and then pretended like they were giving everyone an actual raise when in fact, some people could end up getting a pay cut.
Their claim is that everyone affected by this is getting a net raise. Do you have evidence to the contrary?
Re: Amazon says wage hike ‘more than compensates’ for loss of bonuses
#19I can understand some of the frustration, especially for those making just shy of $15 before the raise, but even if the raise is only from $14 to $15, that still is around $2,000/yr (assuming 40 hour work week) that is guaranteed the way a bonus generally isn't. I would almost always prefer a raise over a one-time bonus for that exact reason. In my experiences, I can't always count on my company giving me a yearly bo…
This makes plenty sense but, still, why not keep both when they can clearly afford to? It really doesn't look good. They say the new setup more than compensates for the removal of the old. But how much more? Does it cost amazon 5% more, 20%?
Re: Amazon says wage hike ‘more than compensates’ for loss of bonuses
#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
Their claim is that everyone affected by this is getting a net raise. Do you have evidence to the contrary?
According to the article: "Those making, say, $14 an hour prior to the increase may only receive a $1 raise, which fails to make up for the loss of benefits."
The conflict is probably due to the fact that RSU grants were very lucrative over the last few years. If you assume that the stock is going to quadruple in the next 3 years, then yes, a RSU bonus is probably better than a raise, but I don't think Amazon will be a 4 trillion dollar company in 3 years time...