Scientists say halting deforestation 'just as urgent' as reducing emissions
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Re: Scientists say halting deforestation 'just as urgent' as reducing emissions
#2Deforestation is a great issue in developing economies. It's something which must be addressed. What's not mentioned is that human population growth is the main driver of this pressure.
Given our abilities to manage disease and such, more efforts should go into educating women in developing allowing them to become more independent and have more control over their reproduction. When people move from agrarian societies to urban, they don't need more than replacement numbers --but in many developing economies the effort to stall growth is overshadowed by other less effective efforts.
China would not be where it is without the great effort (though hamfistedly implemented) it put into controlling growth --it was only necessary to dampen growth while the country caught up economically and now natural forces are effectively resulting in pop stability (unlike India, for example).
Re: Scientists say halting deforestation 'just as urgent' as reducing emissions
#3Sure. The greater problem is how do we achieve that.
With a growing population, deforestation has become necessary to meet agricultural and accommodation needs of humans. As sad as it sounds, people need food and shelter.
The problem boils down to controlling population and also handling population. If people want to keep buying new houses, there is more demand for deforestation. The agricultural demand for deforestation increases with the amount of food wastage we observe these days. Such incremental improvements in lifestyle could help us save forests.
Re: Scientists say halting deforestation 'just as urgent' as reducing emissions
#4Sure. The greater problem is how do we achieve that. With a growing population, deforestation has become necessary to meet agricultural and accommodation needs of humans. As sad as it sounds, people need food and shelter. The problem boils down to controlling population and also handling population. If people want to keep buying new houses, there is more demand for deforestation. The agricultural demand for deforesta…
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Re: Scientists say halting deforestation 'just as urgent' as reducing emissions
#5Sure. The greater problem is how do we achieve that. With a growing population, deforestation has become necessary to meet agricultural and accommodation needs of humans. As sad as it sounds, people need food and shelter. The problem boils down to controlling population and also handling population. If people want to keep buying new houses, there is more demand for deforestation. The agricultural demand for deforesta…
vertical agriculture
Re: Scientists say halting deforestation 'just as urgent' as reducing emissions
#6Deforestation is a great issue in developing economies. It's something which must be addressed. What's not mentioned is that human population growth is the main driver of this pressure. Given our abilities to manage disease and such, more efforts should go into educating women in developing allowing them to become more independent and have more control over their reproduction. When people move from agrarian societies…
> China would not be where it is without the great effort (though hamfistedly implemented) it put into controlling growth
I would not advocate this authoritarian approach (I'm not saying you are). Part of the solution is what you said earlier, education. But population stabilizes on it's own as a country goes through the Demographic Transition.
See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_transition
Or for something more light-hearted: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsBT5EQt348
Re: Scientists say halting deforestation 'just as urgent' as reducing emissions
#7"By protecting and restoring forests, the world would achieve 18% of the emissions mitigation needed by 2030 to avoid runaway climate change"
So no, it could NOT "really be as simple as saving trees".
Re: Scientists say halting deforestation 'just as urgent' as reducing emissions
#8Sure. The greater problem is how do we achieve that. With a growing population, deforestation has become necessary to meet agricultural and accommodation needs of humans. As sad as it sounds, people need food and shelter. The problem boils down to controlling population and also handling population. If people want to keep buying new houses, there is more demand for deforestation. The agricultural demand for deforesta…
vertical agriculture
What about preventing new births and drone controlling every pristine forest with multiple task-forces ready to jet there when the bad boys try to touch it ? While vertical agriculture might in some measure work - it’s ugly AF
Re: Scientists say halting deforestation 'just as urgent' as reducing emissions
#9"By protecting and restoring forests, the world would achieve 18% of the emissions mitigation needed by 2030 to avoid runaway climate change" So no, it could NOT "really be as simple as saving trees".
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Re: Scientists say halting deforestation 'just as urgent' as reducing emissions
#10Deforestation is a great issue in developing economies. It's something which must be addressed. What's not mentioned is that human population growth is the main driver of this pressure. Given our abilities to manage disease and such, more efforts should go into educating women in developing allowing them to become more independent and have more control over their reproduction. When people move from agrarian societies…
> China would not be where it is without the great effort (though hamfistedly implemented) it put into controlling growth I would not advocate this authoritarian approach (I'm not saying you are). Part of the solution is what you said earlier, education. But population stabilizes on it's own as a country goes through the Demographic Transition. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_transition Or for somethin…
The demographic transition is just a theory. UN have already had to adjust population projection upwards as the curves have not followed the theory as close as predicted.