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A fraudster got $12M out of a Canadian university

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Re: A fraudster got $12M out of a Canadian university

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Apologies if it was mentioned in the article, but I am curious as to how the original attacker acquired the information needed for spear phishing. I suppose business dealings between the university and contractors is public to some extent, but it seems plausible that this attack came from within the university or the contractor.

The university in question in a public institution. All of that info -- including copies of signed paperwork, names of officials, and ongoing contracts -- is likely available as public records.

Re: A fraudster got $12M out of a Canadian university

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This seems like a technology problem, not a personnel problem. There should be more checks in a system when you are changing bank accounts where so much money is going to be deposited.

The "so much" part doesn't matter to the person doing the paperwork change. It's just numbers to them and what they do between lunch and leaving.

One small part of why the social hack worked well.

Re: A fraudster got $12M out of a Canadian university

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This is why all staff, whether at a corporation, nonprofit or government that handle money should be put through a two hour anti-phishing training course. There's lots of good free training material out there.

There are also services which you can hire. You give them a list of staff emails, and they send test phishes to everyone. Those who respond or click on links (there's a GUID in each phish) can be sent for further remedial training.

As a person that's been seeing and analyzing spurious SMTP traffic since 1993, this stuff seems obvious, but there's a lot of blithely ignorant people out there in administrative roles.

Re: A fraudster got $12M out of a Canadian university

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I'd love to fund a startup fixing this problem.

It's a clear space where technology has the edge over humans and there's huge network advantages (e.g. you see a new account # for a known entity, especially at a different bank it's a big red flag).

Re: A fraudster got $12M out of a Canadian university

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> Yangjiang City Jixie Zhulu Engineering made four payments to the Mas totalling ¥6.7 million, which would have been worth approximately $1.2 million. In August, Hoi Fu Enterprises received three wire transfers totalling $1 million.

Interesting to see that a dollar in Canada is worth 16.7% more than the same dollar in China.

And that was for a deal that was too good to be true. I wonder what the real going rate is for getting large amounts of funds out of China.

Re: A fraudster got $12M out of a Canadian university

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This seems like a technology problem, not a personnel problem. There should be more checks in a system when you are changing bank accounts where so much money is going to be deposited.

This scam has been going on in the UK for a few years. It's called "authorised push payment (APP) fraud". Typically you're having some building work done (or any other large project or purchase), and an email will arrive from the builder saying they've changed their account details, could the purchaser please send future bank transfers to the new account. Of course the email is fraudulent and usually happens because the builder has a virus on their computer (or even the customer).

The problems are:

* since cheques are no longer in widespread use, the only good way to send money is by a bank transfer to another account; in the UK these are free and nearly instantaneous

* but every account is identified only by a 6 digit sort code and 8 digit account number[edit 1]; the numbers don't even have parity checking, forget about any sort of way to verify the destination account

* complete insecurity of email and computers in general

Finally, after years of foot dragging, the banks are promising they will introduce an "amazing" new feature, where before you do a bank transfer the name (I think surname only) of the account holder will be displayed. This should, when it finally arrives next year, prevent most of these frauds, although I guess the scammers will quickly adapt.

The fraud: https://www.theguardian.com/money/2018/sep/25/uk-bank-custom...

How the banks propose to solve it: https://www.psr.org.uk/psr-publications/consultations/APP-sc...

[edit 1] True story to illustrate what a shitshow this is: When I started working for my current company they asked for my 6 digit sort code and 8 digit account number to pay my salary in. However the first payment was bounced by the bank. When my employer checked with me, it turned out they had only entered the first 7 digits of my account number into the payments system. Surprisingly this was not an error. For example say my a/c number is 12345678, they entered 1234567, and the system assumed that meant 01234567 (this is a feature of all UK banks, not something to do with the payroll, because bank accounts are really just natural numbers, the first customer is given bank account number 1, etc.) Luckily the 01234567 account was dormant or closed so the payment was returned, otherwise several people would have had a bad day (and one person a good day).

Re: A fraudster got $12M out of a Canadian university

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> They quickly discovered that while the email appeared to have been sent by “accounts.recievable@clarkbuilders.com” the email address had been “spoofed.” The display name of the email was different than the actual originating account.

Um, and it was mis-spelled apparently.

Re: A fraudster got $12M out of a Canadian university

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> Yangjiang City Jixie Zhulu Engineering made four payments to the Mas totalling ¥6.7 million, which would have been worth approximately $1.2 million. In August, Hoi Fu Enterprises received three wire transfers totalling $1 million. Interesting to see that a dollar in Canada is worth 16.7% more than the same dollar in China. And that was for a deal that was too good to be true. I wonder what the real going rate is fo…

China has really strict controls on the amount of money that a Chinese citizen can legally wire transfer out of the country, to a foreign domestic bank account, per year. People have come up with all sorts of "creative" grey and black market things involving Vancouver real estate and BC casinos. Google "china money laundering BC" for news about it.

Re: A fraudster got $12M out of a Canadian university

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I'd love to fund a startup fixing this problem. It's a clear space where technology has the edge over humans and there's huge network advantages (e.g. you see a new account # for a known entity, especially at a different bank it's a big red flag).

there has to be offerings already out there that address that kind of thing, but maybe not. Either way, I agree, tech has the clear edge on this, so long as the rulesets (or whatever parameters are defined) are correct.
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