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DOD Just Beginning to Grapple with Scale of Weapon Systems Vulnerabilities
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Re: DOD Just Beginning to Grapple with Scale of Weapon Systems Vulnerabilities
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What are some examples of pushback you received? If it’s sensitive I’d enjoy hearing a made up scenario that followed along the same lines with a problem pointed out and a deflection response given
I could write a long paper on this, and I would have if I thought it would've made a difference... But some highlights: - Stovepiped organisations: stick in your own lane. But security is cross cutting. - Security orgs want to stick to what they know about, not what the threat scope is. - Security unwilling to own risk, fall back on ass-covering checklists and mandatory processes. This leads to them being an obstacle…
Re: DOD Just Beginning to Grapple with Scale of Weapon Systems Vulnerabilities
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the fact that this one test is news suggests, no. I seem to remember a story about "how good is the SAS" because they were asked, after years of development, to try and destroy an armoured train that carried nuclear material from power plant to disposal (it ran through populated areas so was proof against head on collisions at a gazillion miles per hour and so on) The guy took a calor gas canister, filled the train h…
Now -that- sounds like a fun job to have that comes with lots of dinner stories to tell. Course I guess they’d assassinate the guy if he was telling these stories Willy nilly (to protect national secrecy)
Re: DOD Just Beginning to Grapple with Scale of Weapon Systems Vulnerabilities
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10,000 drones? How big a drone are we talking? They would have to be big enough to carry a weapon big enough to penetrate at least 1/2" steel (at the thinnest, only accessible from the side). If out to sea, a small EMP could drop them all. Battles won by numerical superiority are usually won by defenders. If it's an invader, it's almost certainly early in the game. Even at the end of WW2, Germany wasn't invaded so mu…
> Even at the end of WW2, Germany wasn't invaded so much as it lost in France and Russia Sorry, no. Germany was very quickly overrun in 1945. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:1945-05-01GerWW2Batt... https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:1945-05-15GerWW2Batt...
Re: DOD Just Beginning to Grapple with Scale of Weapon Systems Vulnerabilities
#205Earlier quoted context omitted.
What are some examples of pushback you received? If it’s sensitive I’d enjoy hearing a made up scenario that followed along the same lines with a problem pointed out and a deflection response given
I could write a long paper on this, and I would have if I thought it would've made a difference... But some highlights: - Stovepiped organisations: stick in your own lane. But security is cross cutting. - Security orgs want to stick to what they know about, not what the threat scope is. - Security unwilling to own risk, fall back on ass-covering checklists and mandatory processes. This leads to them being an obstacle…
https://securityaffairs.co/wordpress/53856/cyber-warfare-2/d...
Re: DOD Just Beginning to Grapple with Scale of Weapon Systems Vulnerabilities
#206Earlier quoted context omitted.
I could write a long paper on this, and I would have if I thought it would've made a difference... But some highlights: - Stovepiped organisations: stick in your own lane. But security is cross cutting. - Security orgs want to stick to what they know about, not what the threat scope is. - Security unwilling to own risk, fall back on ass-covering checklists and mandatory processes. This leads to them being an obstacle…
Japan doesn't appear to be doing much better. https://securityaffairs.co/wordpress/53856/cyber-warfare-2/d...
Japan invented some of the best aspects of safety culture, like being process driven, checklists, point & call https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/pointing-and-calling-j...
It has been remarked before that if security was treated the same as safety critical systems (like aviation operations, and increasingly, hospitals) then we would have much better security. Tbh, I'm not sure, because of the adversarial nature of attack and defence, but it would be interesting to test.
Re: DOD Just Beginning to Grapple with Scale of Weapon Systems Vulnerabilities
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> Even at the end of WW2, Germany wasn't invaded so much as it lost in France and Russia Sorry, no. Germany was very quickly overrun in 1945. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:1945-05-01GerWW2Batt... https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:1945-05-15GerWW2Batt...
What they possibly meant was: the war was already lost when they got invaded at all.
Re: DOD Just Beginning to Grapple with Scale of Weapon Systems Vulnerabilities
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Well that's a question I have as well - who actually knows what's going on there?
People like me.
What kind of work do you do? You're in the military? What's your rank / job description? That's the kind of information I'm curious about. If the answer is "I can't tell you because it'll expose personal information," well, I'm not the one that outed you lol.
Re: DOD Just Beginning to Grapple with Scale of Weapon Systems Vulnerabilities
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I have been thinking the recent Navy navigation related crashes are related to enemies tampering with systems. They are testing live how weak a windows based fighting ship is. https://www.wired.com/1998/07/sunk-by-windows-nt/
From what I understood the recent Navy collisions are caused by under-staffing => sailors having to work too long days => sailors literally falling asleep at their posts / seeing things that aren't there / not seeing things that are there
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Military is the pet project. It's the only form of public spending with broad support even from anti Federal government people.
> Military is the pet project. It's the only form of public spending with broad support even from anti Federal government people. Law enforcement has about equally broad support, including from anti-federal-government groups (though not always the same ones that back the military, as their are pro-law-and-order anti-interventionist groups that aren't keen on military spending, and pro-military groups that are federal…