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Re: Why do programmers hate Microsoft?

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Post by xiongchiamiov » Thu, Oct 21, 2010, 8:14 PM UTC

runjake wrote: post #21

Programmers generally don't hate Microsoft. They have one of the biggest (if not, THE) developer communities in existence. Developers have great access to outstanding developer documentation, engineers (channel9.msdn.com), and Microsoft lets its engineers blog candidly (blogs,msdn.com). The same complaints the article cited could be levied against gcc, autoconf, and so on. And you could levy the same trollbaiting aga…

Depends on lot on which community you're looking at. Being primarily in the IRC/slashdot/web dev/scripting language/sysadmin areas (as well as a student of a rather Linux-centric university), I was amazed at all of the Windows-centric stuff when I found StackOverflow. I honestly didn't realize that there were good programmers who preferred to work on the Microsoft stack.

Now, of course, I realize there are, but I'm still a bit confused when I talk to one... our worlds are just so different.

Re: Why do programmers hate Microsoft?

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Post by JoeCortopassi » Fri, Oct 22, 2010, 2:57 AM UTC

Tamerlin wrote: post #45

JoeCortopassi wrote: post #3

I think a big reason why people don't like Microsoft, is the anti-competitive behavior they used to get to the size they are today. A lot of people dream of starting a business one day (especially around here), and when a company was built by crushing start-ups/small businesses in illegitimate ways, people aren't going to be too happy about that. Plus, they have that little paperclip thing that pops up whenever you a…

"I think a big reason why people don't like Microsoft, is the anti-competitive behavior they used to get to the size they are today." That's completely nonsensical. Microsoft didn't act anti-competitively to become big, they did it AFTER becoming big. You can't abuse power you don't have, and when Microsoft won the OS contract with IBM, it was a tiny company, and Apple was by comparison huge. Microsoft got big by tak…

"That's completely nonsensical. Microsoft didn't act anti-competitively to become big, they did it AFTER becoming big"

I didn't say that's how they got started, but rather one of the ways that allowed them to reach the size they are today. Even if you know nothing of the antitrust case, you'd have to admit some shady stuff was going on when you see a browser like IE6 last so long :p

Re: Why do programmers hate Microsoft?

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Post by Tamerlin » Mon, Oct 25, 2010, 6:46 PM UTC

JoeCortopassi wrote: post #72

Tamerlin wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"I think a big reason why people don't like Microsoft, is the anti-competitive behavior they used to get to the size they are today." That's completely nonsensical. Microsoft didn't act anti-competitively to become big, they did it AFTER becoming big. You can't abuse power you don't have, and when Microsoft won the OS contract with IBM, it was a tiny company, and Apple was by comparison huge. Microsoft got big by tak…

"That's completely nonsensical. Microsoft didn't act anti-competitively to become big, they did it AFTER becoming big" I didn't say that's how they got started, but rather one of the ways that allowed them to reach the size they are today. Even if you know nothing of the antitrust case, you'd have to admit some shady stuff was going on when you see a browser like IE6 last so long :p

The shady stuff they did with IE6 mattered because MS was already so big when they did it.