Facebook Isn’t Sorry, It Just Wants Your Data

I only largely use Facebook for the events calendar anymore. Big brands and community groups use that part of the site heavily for event promotion. If we want Facebook to become obsolete, we would need to create a comparable event promotion experience elsewhere. So far, though, I've only seen inroads into discovering events already being promoted. The real money is disrupting how events are promoted so the customer doesn't have to do any "discovery" what so ever.

Re: Facebook Isn’t Sorry, It Just Wants Your Data

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Post by inetknght » Tue, Oct 09, 2018, 6:30 PM UTC

noncoml wrote: post #3

Is it your data that it wants or your attention?

Why not both?

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Post by metalrain » Tue, Oct 09, 2018, 6:31 PM UTC

noncoml wrote: post #3

Is it your data that it wants or your attention?

Data can be used to get attention. So data first, then however they can monetize that.

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Post by snarf21 » Tue, Oct 09, 2018, 6:31 PM UTC

noncoml wrote: post #3

Is it your data that it wants or your attention?

They are a righteous circle feeding each other and both for sale to the highest bidder.

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Post by elvinyung » Tue, Oct 09, 2018, 6:33 PM UTC

metalrain wrote: post #2

So what would be next great wave of internet companys, that doesn't profit on your data? Actually just data storage with strong private encryption?

What about something like Patreon? There probably needs to be a social and cultural shift (i.e. not just technology) to make micropayment "marketplaces" for creators and content actually viable, but I would actually reasonably bet that this is one probable way forward.

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Post by fermienrico » Tue, Oct 09, 2018, 6:35 PM UTC

It’s very simple: As a consumer, we cannot trust any advertisement company. Their goals are in direct conflict with user privacy. In fact it’s not a wishful goal, it is their business model.

Our attention is very expensive and everything is designed around us to grab us by the neck so to speak. Flashing ads, stories and feeds.

I cannot, absolutely cannot, trust Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Adobe, Facebook, Visa, Amex, MasterCard, etc. These businesses bullshit their way through with “We want to make the world a better place by connecting people.” Yes, that’s great. So charge us for your service and stop forcing me to view ads, selling off my privacy into a giant bidding war of advertisers. Fuck advertisement.

Apple is an exception and I hope they continue to charge premium for their products. I’m happy to shell out money for privacy. But you never know when a multi billion dollar company all of a sudden decides to take a different route. Tim Cook has great personal ethics but we don’t know about the next CEO.

Mark my words: The next big successful companies will be around user privacy. Apple has started to market themselves as such already in their keynotes. Duckduckgo is selling it as their main value proposition.

Edit from comments below: Amazon, Walmart, Sears, Netflix, Visa, Amex, MC.

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Post by snarf21 » Tue, Oct 09, 2018, 6:35 PM UTC

dabockster wrote: post #4

I only largely use Facebook for the events calendar anymore. Big brands and community groups use that part of the site heavily for event promotion. If we want Facebook to become obsolete, we would need to create a comparable event promotion experience elsewhere. So far, though, I've only seen inroads into discovering events already being promoted. The real money is disrupting how events are promoted so the customer d…

You've hit on the key, make it lazy for the user.

Don't make them go search on meetup or eventbrite like a neanderthal.