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Intel's New Low: Commissioning Misleading Core I9-9900K Benchmarks [video]

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Re: Intel's New Low: Commissioning Misleading Core I9-9900K Benchmarks [video]

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intel is failing benchmarks, security vulns all around. Nvidia is failing to deliver price/perf they promised years ago. amd is the opposite of both and it's stock continues to dive. go figure.

> amd is the opposite of both and it's stock continues to dive. go figure.

AMDs share price is up almost 1400% in 2 years, what on earth are you on about?

Re: Intel's New Low: Commissioning Misleading Core I9-9900K Benchmarks [video]

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I worked in HPC when NVIDIA started taking serious market share from Intel. My memory of Intel’s performance comparisons were that they were often technically unsupportable once you scratched the surface. In one case a third party who were demonstrating how much faster Intel Xeon Phi was for deep learning admitted that they were comparing highly-optimised code to unoptimised code in their results. This doesn’t surpri…

I've been in the same boat and I completely agree. One thing that's unexpected to people is that getting decent performance out of a GPU is actually easier than CPUs - vectorization and multithreading is unified in the parallel programming model, cache optimizations are mostly not needed. These are the two biggest time sinks you have when optimizing for CPU, solved right there. What you instead have to care about is resource utilization per thread, and that is IMO way easier to reason about and optimize for.

Re: Intel's New Low: Commissioning Misleading Core I9-9900K Benchmarks [video]

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I'm not sure about that. At $499, the i9-9900k is almost competing against the 12-core Threadripper 2920x ($649, 12-core/24-threads, 4.4GHz clock, 60 PCIe lanes, quad-memory channels). I think most people will find more use out of +4 cores (granted, on a NUMA platform) than higher clocks. Cores for compiling code, rendering, video editing, etc. etc. Pretty much only gamers want +Clock speeds, and more and more games…

> Pretty much only gamers want +Clock speeds I wish. We use a commercial path-tracer that scales very well to many cores, GPUs and entire clusters when it's chewing away at a single fixed scene or animation. But in interactive mode many scene modifications are bottlenecked on a single or few threads and locks until it gets back into the highly optimized rendering code paths. So a lot of work goes into quickly shuttin…

Agreed. Games aren't the only thing people do with lots of cores / HEDT. Give me a 128 core machine and I'll happily keep them busy all day with work. No need for a heater either.

Re: Intel's New Low: Commissioning Misleading Core I9-9900K Benchmarks [video]

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In text form: https://www.techspot.com/article/1722-misleading-core-i9-990...

This article says that Techspot has obtained the 9900 (without being bound by an NDA, as others are), and that Intel is releasing misleading results while other reviewers are bound by an NDA, but that Techspot is not going to show their own benchmarks--which could refute the misleading results Intel has authorized for public release--out of a sense of "professionalism." Actually , any "professional" journalism outfit…

It is most from a respect to your pears that will respect the NDA, if you release early then the others lose the views and they can't respond until the embargo is over.

Re: Intel's New Low: Commissioning Misleading Core I9-9900K Benchmarks [video]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This article says that Techspot has obtained the 9900 (without being bound by an NDA, as others are), and that Intel is releasing misleading results while other reviewers are bound by an NDA, but that Techspot is not going to show their own benchmarks--which could refute the misleading results Intel has authorized for public release--out of a sense of "professionalism." Actually , any "professional" journalism outfit…

the video doesn't dispute the benchmarks of the 9900, but rather they dispute the published compared benchmarks of the ryzen 7 2700X, which used default, unconfigured memory settings to push the benchmark down, while the 9900 benchmarks used configured memory settings (as it should) Did you even watch the video?

The last line of your comment is wholly unecessary (and explicitly not allowed on HN)

Re: Intel's New Low: Commissioning Misleading Core I9-9900K Benchmarks [video]

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yeah. I went Ryzen for my new laptop. 100% happy with it, and this kind of crap from Intel just solidifies my decision.

Which Laptop?

I got (off some sweet discounts that expired over the weekend) a Thinkpad E485 with 128GB M.2, 16GB RAM, and 2700U Ryzen, 1080p screen for $720 shipped.

Re: Intel's New Low: Commissioning Misleading Core I9-9900K Benchmarks [video]

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intel is failing benchmarks, security vulns all around. Nvidia is failing to deliver price/perf they promised years ago. amd is the opposite of both and it's stock continues to dive. go figure.

> amd is the opposite of both and it's stock continues to dive. go figure. AMDs share price is up almost 1400% in 2 years, what on earth are you on about?

It's currently on a bit of a slump after some financial firms lowered their targets of the stock price.

I have a feeling it'll make its way back up though.

Re: Intel's New Low: Commissioning Misleading Core I9-9900K Benchmarks [video]

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> amd is the opposite of both and it's stock continues to dive. go figure. AMDs share price is up almost 1400% in 2 years, what on earth are you on about?

It's currently on a bit of a slump after some financial firms lowered their targets of the stock price. I have a feeling it'll make its way back up though.

I think when you outpace the general index by multiple factors over years a small pull back is not only expected, its healthy.
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