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Disappearing videos and disappointed grandmothers

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Re: Disappearing videos and disappointed grandmothers

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Post by ex3xu »

bdr wrote: post #64
ex3xu wrote: post #38

Another even more egregious example -- around 10 or so years ago, I was a big proponent of the writing website Urbis. It was a site where you could submit a piece of writing and get feedback from other users. You can still see its activity on the Wayback Machine. It was an interesting site still without equal as far as I can tell. From what I understand, one day, the creator decided that the site wasn't making him an…

A little OT, but I’m curious to know what made Urbis better than the other options out there.

Probably the most unique thing about Urbis was their system for generating reviews which I thought was pretty interesting -- reviews on your work were locked by default. In order to unlock a review, you had to write a review of equal word count on someone else's work. I thought this was pretty successful method for incentivizing active participation on the site, something I haven't seen replicated anywhere else. Although I more or less grew out of writing recreationally, so I wouldn't even know if there were a successful modern alternative to Urbis.

Re: Disappearing videos and disappointed grandmothers

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Post by ex3xu »

corey_moncure wrote: post #53
ex3xu wrote: post #38

Another even more egregious example -- around 10 or so years ago, I was a big proponent of the writing website Urbis. It was a site where you could submit a piece of writing and get feedback from other users. You can still see its activity on the Wayback Machine. It was an interesting site still without equal as far as I can tell. From what I understand, one day, the creator decided that the site wasn't making him an…

Did you at least get your money back?

This was 2008, only a few years after Facebook had come out and well before the "People are the product" conversation that would come to dominate the discourse around monetization. Free services like Gmail and Livejournal had set a precedent for my naivete in expecting a decent product to be available for free. I've certainly learned my lesson from that experience.

Re: Disappearing videos and disappointed grandmothers

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Post by uptown »

tzs wrote: post #61
irrational wrote: post #2

This is why I don't trust my own videos/photos/documents/notes/etc. to "the cloud". How many examples like this have there been where peoples stuff just disappears one day with no way to bring it back? More than I can count. Though, saying I don't trust my files to the cloud is not the same as saying I don't use the cloud. I keep two copies of all of my files in 2 physical location. However, both of those physical lo…

I need to add cloud mirroring. What cloud service are you using? I was about to give Backblaze Personal a try, but stopped because I don't like how they handle encryption. If I'm understanding their site correctly, restoring requires giving them your key. I'd prefer something where decrypting for restoration is client side. I'm currently contemplating Backblaze B2 or Amazon Glacier using Arq or Duplicati[1] or someth…

For offsite backups I use Arq with Amazon, but the remote storage provider largely doesn’t matter all that much. Data is encrypted. Choose based on price.

Re: Disappearing videos and disappointed grandmothers

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Post by northwest65 »

irrational wrote: post #2

This is why I don't trust my own videos/photos/documents/notes/etc. to "the cloud". How many examples like this have there been where peoples stuff just disappears one day with no way to bring it back? More than I can count. Though, saying I don't trust my files to the cloud is not the same as saying I don't use the cloud. I keep two copies of all of my files in 2 physical location. However, both of those physical lo…

Trust the cloud? Hell I won't even purchase music that isn't on CD or LP. If my access disappears for whatever reason (hacked, I've posted something politically distasteful on a linked service, whatever), even if I get it back, I could be a long time without my collection.

I have however accepted that as a possibility (no matter how unlikely) with Steam as I don't really go back to play old games, but I expect the music I purchase to accessible to me for decades without question.

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Post by jaimex2 »

floatingatoll wrote: post #16
farnsworth wrote: post #12

Anyone know what product she's referring to?

Dear HN, This post goes out of its way to avoid naming the site in question. If you know the answer to the above question, think carefully before providing that name here or anywhere. Ask yourself how invoking their name specifically contributes value to this story. Ask yourself why you consider it right to shame them by name, when OP did not consider it right to do so. If you can’t think of a reason that positively…

Oh thats good! the Chinese government should use this one.

Re: Disappearing videos and disappointed grandmothers

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Post by dabernathy89 »

anigbrowl wrote: post #57

Add to this youTube's annoying habit of leaving placeholders for deleted videos in my playlists but not telling me what it is that got removed, thus preventing me from ever finding it again. I fail to see what purpose is served by deleting the metadata as well as the possibly-copyright-infringing content.

You can always almost find out by just Googling the video ID, especially if it's been submitted to Reddit or a similar link sharing site.

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Post by briandear »

ex3xu wrote: post #71
bdr wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A little OT, but I’m curious to know what made Urbis better than the other options out there.

Probably the most unique thing about Urbis was their system for generating reviews which I thought was pretty interesting -- reviews on your work were locked by default. In order to unlock a review, you had to write a review of equal word count on someone else's work. I thought this was pretty successful method for incentivizing active participation on the site, something I haven't seen replicated anywhere else. Alth…

Zoëtrope does this — they’ve been going strong since the year 2000.

Re: Disappearing videos and disappointed grandmothers

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Post by briandear »

nkrisc wrote: post #55
floatingatoll wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure thing. The framing of your reply hinges on an unstated assertion: “It is always ‘right’ to name and shame a corporation.” I contradict that assertion in my plea, which results instead in this assumption: “Consider the ethics of the situation before naming and shaming a corporation.” Having laid out that, I will next address the literal question asked: “doxxed”, as you correctly identified when forming your reply…

It does, but I don't see how an entity such as a corporation can be "shamed." A corporation is not capable of feeling shame. The individuals who work there can, but no one is asking for any individual to be named. I suppose it could said those who work there might be indirectly shamed by association, but that's a stretch. Therefore I don't see how there's any issue in naming a corporation for their role in a situatio…

Even it were a person, people have a right to know.

If a car blew up because of a faulty gas tank, is it “respectful” to not name the car company?

If a vet killed your poodle because of negligence, is it “repectful” to not name the vet?

Free markets depend on the free flow of information. “Protecting” a company that did something wrong isn’t “respectful,” it’s unethical. Knowing a company (or a person) that messed up when delivering a product or service to the public is important.

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