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H-1B: As immigration furor roils Silicon Valley, Canada smooths way for techies

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Re: H-1B: As immigration furor roils Silicon Valley, Canada smooths way for techies

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As someone who is contemplating this move, I can share some thoughts. First, money isn’t the force that’s driving immigrants out of India and into the US, Canada etc. Among the people I know and including myself, the top driving forces are safety, good governance, clean air and water. While living in the US has the benefit of higher pay, it comes at a significant cost. Here is a short list of things I can not do whil…

I have 3 offers to write books. I, unfortunately, cannot do that due to the H-1B visa restriction. I have been in US legally for over a decade, making 350K+ annually. Our HH income is 700K USD. Before someone jumps in and say but why don't you apply for a EB5 greencard, it's not so simple either. It is 600K (500K + legal and other fees) of my hard earned money down the drain with ZERO certainty of a greencard for YEA…

> than to continue contributing to the US economy where people like us are not cared for.

You and your spouse are making $700K and you are complaining about the US not taking care of you. Good luck in canada.

Re: H-1B: As immigration furor roils Silicon Valley, Canada smooths way for techies

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How does your wife get to 350K+ annually on an H4? That's insane.

It’s not really insane. Many a times, there are skilled spouses who can’t get an H1 because of lottery or some other issue. My spouse had an illustrious career in India and did an MBA in US. She made a lot more than 350k per year and she was on H4 too. One of my friend’s spouse is a Director in a company. Her company screwed up her Green Card. So she couldn’t extend her H1 beyond 6 years. She had to move to H4 too.

> Her company screwed up her Green Card. So she couldn’t extend her H1 beyond 6 years. She had to move to H4 too

What was the screw up?

Re: H-1B: As immigration furor roils Silicon Valley, Canada smooths way for techies

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As someone who is contemplating this move, I can share some thoughts. First, money isn’t the force that’s driving immigrants out of India and into the US, Canada etc. Among the people I know and including myself, the top driving forces are safety, good governance, clean air and water. While living in the US has the benefit of higher pay, it comes at a significant cost. Here is a short list of things I can not do whil…

I have 3 offers to write books. I, unfortunately, cannot do that due to the H-1B visa restriction. I have been in US legally for over a decade, making 350K+ annually. Our HH income is 700K USD. Before someone jumps in and say but why don't you apply for a EB5 greencard, it's not so simple either. It is 600K (500K + legal and other fees) of my hard earned money down the drain with ZERO certainty of a greencard for YEA…

I would just like to let you know how objectively vile and depraved it is that you and your wife pillage those amounts of money from the American society that you are objectively a parasitic freeloaders of, while American citizens have been deprived of the education and opportunities that could have allowed them to do exactly what you are being given ungodly amounts of Americans' wealth to do. You are also really little more than a compensation for horrific public policy and incompetent leadership that has robbed countless generations of Americans of education and opportunities.

Why provide education to your own population when you can import foreigners to make up for incompetent leadership and pillage the American people. But do congratulate yourself, in doing your part in destroying and pillaging the very society and culture that provided you everything you have.

Re: H-1B: As immigration furor roils Silicon Valley, Canada smooths way for techies

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Are mining companies anywhere environmentally conscious anymore than they have to be? The people and politics of Canada are in favor of combating climate change in many respects. Not like the US withdrawing from the Paris accords.

75% of mining companies are based in Canada. I'm surprised they are not based in the Cayman Islands or offshore but they choose Canada for favorable legal treatment and lax oversight. https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/wdb4j5/75-of-the-worlds-m... I'm sure otherwise Canada is environmentally woke, and America's coal barons could give Canada's mining companies a run for the environmentally unfit / socially unsound mon…

Low electricity costs too

Re: H-1B: As immigration furor roils Silicon Valley, Canada smooths way for techies

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I wish so badly I could trade places, as a conservative man stuck in a 'progressive' country with lower wages. Give me a great salary and Blumpffss 'regressive' US any day.

I mean...why can't you?

I'm not the person you replied to but keep in mind that a lot of people talk about wanting to live in another country but never get around to actually doing anything about it.

It doesn't matter what country you are currently in there will be people who want to live somewhere else. Some will get it done but most won't take any steps towards making it happen.

Re: H-1B: As immigration furor roils Silicon Valley, Canada smooths way for techies

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I mean...why can't you?

The same reason not every "I'm totally moving to canada/australia/new zealand/europe" liberal in the US can do so. Immigration laws.

I'm not even sure immigration laws have much to do with it. I would hazard a guess that the vast majority of people never get as far as finding out what the other country's immigration laws are.

Re: H-1B: As immigration furor roils Silicon Valley, Canada smooths way for techies

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I really don't understand where people get the idea that housing is expensive in Toronto. You can rent a room in a rental home in scarborough or etobicoke for as low as a few hundred dollars. You'd share a house with a dozen people sure, but you typically get a private room at least. The cheapest I've been able to find in SF was $600 for sharing a _room_ with half a dozen people.

> a few hundred dollars Ya, I'm not buying this. Maybe 12 students sharing a 4/5 bedroom house that is a mid-distance walk from bus transit that requires you to transfer to a another bus/subway to get you where you're going. If you're a software dev and properly value your time, this type of housing is a no-go.

Sure, you can always pay more once you are out of school and can afford something nicer. I used to share a 3 bed apt with two guys near union station, paid $400. Then moved to bachelor at christie, paid $750. Eventually got a detached in a nice neighbourhood w/ a 2k/mo mortgage. Housing was affordable every step of the way.

The point is that it's feasible for a 3rd world person to save up, move to Toronto, and still have a private living space while working towards home ownership, whereas SF struggles pretty hard with homelessness of even full-fledged american citizens.

Re: H-1B: As immigration furor roils Silicon Valley, Canada smooths way for techies

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I'm in my 30's, spent > 1/3rd of my life in the US. Got a Masters degree before Obama was elected. Slogged enough, made enough personal sacrifices to achieve what I have. An employer who hired me based on a promise of EB greencard. Employer screwed me at last moment by giving a lame excuse as to why the GC process stalled. In the mean time, had saved up enough to put 20% down on a 500K+ home in N.E. US. Had almost pa…

In Canada you’ll likely have citizenship in 3-4 years. It’s very straight forward.

Re: H-1B: As immigration furor roils Silicon Valley, Canada smooths way for techies

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Also timelines. I don't have first-hand experience, but the people I've talked to said they had citizenship within two years.

That sounds way too short. Until a few years ago you needed to be a resident (=reside) three years before you can apply (which takes about another year). I think now it's four + application processing time.

It’s 3 years but applications are taking 12 months to process so 4 years total.
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