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Re: Disappearing videos and disappointed grandmothers

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Post by tzs » Tue, Oct 09, 2018, 12:44 AM UTC

irrational wrote: post #2

This is why I don't trust my own videos/photos/documents/notes/etc. to "the cloud". How many examples like this have there been where peoples stuff just disappears one day with no way to bring it back? More than I can count. Though, saying I don't trust my files to the cloud is not the same as saying I don't use the cloud. I keep two copies of all of my files in 2 physical location. However, both of those physical lo…

I need to add cloud mirroring. What cloud service are you using?

I was about to give Backblaze Personal a try, but stopped because I don't like how they handle encryption. If I'm understanding their site correctly, restoring requires giving them your key. I'd prefer something where decrypting for restoration is client side.

I'm currently contemplating Backblaze B2 or Amazon Glacier using Arq or Duplicati[1] or something like that. (Or maybe using something I write myself which can better adapt to my specific needs).

Also eyeing OneDrive, since I have 1 TB of that from my Office 365 subscription, and am only using a whopping 300 MB of it.

Hmmm...could I make a large disk image and store the .dmg file on OneDrive, and then mount that image and use it as a Time Machine volume, thereby getting a cloud Time Machine backup?

[1] or duplicity or duplicacy...I'm not sure which of the three similarly named backup programs I'm thinking of!

Edit: looks like the answer to that last question is no. Time Machine does not seem to allow using a mounted image as a Time Machine volume.

Re: Disappearing videos and disappointed grandmothers

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Post by pmiller2 » Tue, Oct 09, 2018, 12:56 AM UTC

anigbrowl wrote: post #57

Add to this youTube's annoying habit of leaving placeholders for deleted videos in my playlists but not telling me what it is that got removed, thus preventing me from ever finding it again. I fail to see what purpose is served by deleting the metadata as well as the possibly-copyright-infringing content.

Maybe the metadata is deleted on purpose to prevent you from finding the deleted video again?

Re: Disappearing videos and disappointed grandmothers

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Post by abtinf » Tue, Oct 09, 2018, 1:26 AM UTC

anigbrowl wrote: post #57

Add to this youTube's annoying habit of leaving placeholders for deleted videos in my playlists but not telling me what it is that got removed, thus preventing me from ever finding it again. I fail to see what purpose is served by deleting the metadata as well as the possibly-copyright-infringing content.

YouTube is inconsistent about how it reports the video name. IIRC I noticed that on Roku, it will show the name in a playlist or if you try to play the video.

Re: Disappearing videos and disappointed grandmothers

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Post by bdr » Tue, Oct 09, 2018, 1:55 AM UTC

ex3xu wrote: post #38

Another even more egregious example -- around 10 or so years ago, I was a big proponent of the writing website Urbis. It was a site where you could submit a piece of writing and get feedback from other users. You can still see its activity on the Wayback Machine. It was an interesting site still without equal as far as I can tell. From what I understand, one day, the creator decided that the site wasn't making him an…

A little OT, but I’m curious to know what made Urbis better than the other options out there.

Re: Disappearing videos and disappointed grandmothers

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Post by perl4ever » Tue, Oct 09, 2018, 2:05 AM UTC

castlecrasher2 wrote: post #22

>Even inside the company, the internal tech support is essentially gaslighting the employees who report this problem, by saying things like "it never existed" It's mind-boggling that this happens but having experienced it myself, it sucks. Attempting to address an issue that sure seems to be due to another team's system is already difficult, so when they respond "it's not us" you're not only left holding the bag but…

Some companies are caught in a cycle where they're not charging enough to their customers, much less enough for tech support, and as a result their policy seems to be to frustrate you as much as possible by denying everything if you contact them with problems, while refunding you store credit if you persist. Please send photos - you send photos - "we don't see anything wrong." A refund doesn't actually solve the issue!

Obviously, sympathy is limited for a free service, but I've encountered this with a paid service. And a few weeks later they announced broad based price increases, which made for a clearly implied backstory. Not enough money for labor costs.

Re: Disappearing videos and disappointed grandmothers

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Post by pandapower2 » Tue, Oct 09, 2018, 2:06 AM UTC

anigbrowl wrote: post #57

Add to this youTube's annoying habit of leaving placeholders for deleted videos in my playlists but not telling me what it is that got removed, thus preventing me from ever finding it again. I fail to see what purpose is served by deleting the metadata as well as the possibly-copyright-infringing content.

If nothing else deleting/hiding the metadata makes it less likely that someone outside of youtube will figure out a way to accurately determine how many times a given piece of content has been uploaded to youtube. Instead they hide it all and pretend like it never happened.

Re: Disappearing videos and disappointed grandmothers

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Post by thsowers » Tue, Oct 09, 2018, 2:09 AM UTC

anigbrowl wrote: post #57

Add to this youTube's annoying habit of leaving placeholders for deleted videos in my playlists but not telling me what it is that got removed, thus preventing me from ever finding it again. I fail to see what purpose is served by deleting the metadata as well as the possibly-copyright-infringing content.

I discovered this recently: If the uploader themselves deletes the video then it will also be removed from your youtube history, as well as your Google account's history @ myactivity.google.com

Re: Disappearing videos and disappointed grandmothers

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Post by darioush » Tue, Oct 09, 2018, 2:12 AM UTC

commandlinefan wrote: post #6

> someone who really gave a damn got their hands dirty Although this person is the hero of the story, I feel obligated to point out that in today's JIRA-driven "what have you done for me lately" close-the-stories what's-your-velocity we're-about-to-downsize-so-you'd-better-prove-you're-valuable culture of "efficiency", the person who did this either had a LOT of job security (as in, compromising photos of the CEO in…

#closing-tickets-and-attending-conference-calls #ctaacc (read like SEA-TAC)

I promise I'm sober

Re: Disappearing videos and disappointed grandmothers

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Post by tlrobinson » Tue, Oct 09, 2018, 2:20 AM UTC

leetcrew wrote: post #59

corey_moncure wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you at least get your money back?

i'm assuming it was an ad supported service.

I'm assuming (maybe incorrectly) that was corey_moncure's point.

Re: Disappearing videos and disappointed grandmothers

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Post by ObsoleteNerd » Tue, Oct 09, 2018, 2:24 AM UTC

xaranke wrote: post #43

farnsworth wrote: post #12

Anyone know what product she's referring to?

Cookpad?

While I vehemently disagree with what the a user above you said about "doxxing" companies being wrong (it's not doxxing, it's whistleblowing), I also don't think we should guess. If someone KNOWS what company it is, I do believe it's in the interest of the uses and society to know this, as a warning, but guessing just potentially hurts innocent companies that have nothing to do with this.