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Re: Review others websites and they review yours

#31
I wish I could see and possibly review sites without handing over my email address. I'd like to be able to explore the kinds of sites that are posted and possibly the kinds of feedback they are getting before creating an account.

(Also, what if I don't have a website I want reviewed? I guess that violates the 1:1 relationship feedbackroulette is trying to develop, but I'd be interested in what non-"webmaster" folks have to say if there are any willing to submit a review. )

Re: Review others websites and they review yours

#32

How about a twist on the original idea: Reviewers submit a short review with the basic findings and points of improvement, and hint at a more in-depth review. For a nominal fee, you could access a more in-depth review and consulting (maybe with coding help, etc..). The site could be a nexus between people needing reviewing help, and consultants, for a small fee. Top reviewers could make a living out of this, other pe…

I think this is somewhat akin to http://www.usertesting.com/ except nothing is free there.

Re: Review others websites and they review yours

#33
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I feel that there is the danger here of a blind leading the blind effect. I tried it out for giggles. Not to pick on my reviewer, but here: There are alot of words on the landing page [of BCC]. Look at some of the ycombinator pages and you will notice the average site has about 45 words and 4-9 links. Don't give them so many options and so much to read. Otherewise, looks good! The quality of your users' interactions…

> the average experience of using it would be getting your query on Rails ActiveRecord validation answered by a junior Java programmer from India Please avoid such racist stereotyping. There are terrible and awesome programmers in every community, and it's an insult to put them in the same bin and call them the same name. I found it quite offensive myself.

That reminds me of what my cabbie said when I asked if there was much crime around here (this was in Jamaica). He responded, "there is crime in every country." He was clearly offended, so I decided not to press on with discussions of statistics.

Re: Review others websites and they review yours

#34
post #14

I feel that there is the danger here of a blind leading the blind effect. I tried it out for giggles. Not to pick on my reviewer, but here: There are alot of words on the landing page [of BCC]. Look at some of the ycombinator pages and you will notice the average site has about 45 words and 4-9 links. Don't give them so many options and so much to read. Otherewise, looks good! The quality of your users' interactions…

Indeed, this seems like the wrong matching model if you want either (a) expert review; or (b) representative user review. A random other website-developer isn't especially likely to be either. There is great value to the ad-hoc, user-driven matching of people with topics that occurs on sites with a public new-queue and topic-leaderboard.

And so this reminds me of an idea for a more focused version of HN I'd had a while back. Let's call it 'Bluntr' for now. All stories are requests for review of work: code, designs, websites, products, whatever. All comments are supposed to be brutally direct feedback, with as much concrete backup-data/recommendations as possible.

Note that this does not mean 'nasty': no mockery or vague insulting filler words would be permitted. But it also means every thread can jump straight to the point, without traditional 'attaboy!' or 'I like the X but...' niceties slowing things down. Essentially: at Bluntr, empty compliments or insults would both be flagged/downvoted to oblivion, while steely-eyed evaluation would be promoted.

The community might not gel without those normal verbal ticks and grooming-activities, but then again these ground rules might help the really focused, strong contributors cut to the chase a lot faster. You are not allowed to be either nice or nasty, just honest -- and so you are free to be more productive. That's the initial theory to be tested, at least.

Re: Review others websites and they review yours

#35
post #14

I feel that there is the danger here of a blind leading the blind effect. I tried it out for giggles. Not to pick on my reviewer, but here: There are alot of words on the landing page [of BCC]. Look at some of the ycombinator pages and you will notice the average site has about 45 words and 4-9 links. Don't give them so many options and so much to read. Otherewise, looks good! The quality of your users' interactions…

> the average experience of using it would be getting your query on Rails ActiveRecord validation answered by a junior Java programmer from India Please avoid such racist stereotyping. There are terrible and awesome programmers in every community, and it's an insult to put them in the same bin and call them the same name. I found it quite offensive myself.

I did not find anything offensive in that line. He did not write

'...answered by a terrible/awful Java Programmer from India'.

If he wrote following,

'...answered by a Perl hacker from Germany.' his point will still be valid. I think you are reading too much into it.

P.S.:I am an Indian.

Re: Review others websites and they review yours

#36
post #14

I feel that there is the danger here of a blind leading the blind effect. I tried it out for giggles. Not to pick on my reviewer, but here: There are alot of words on the landing page [of BCC]. Look at some of the ycombinator pages and you will notice the average site has about 45 words and 4-9 links. Don't give them so many options and so much to read. Otherewise, looks good! The quality of your users' interactions…

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Re: Review others websites and they review yours

#37
We submitted our site this morning and have received really good feedback, which we are going to implement on our site. I also reached out to the team with feedback and received a quick thoughtful response. I understand there is a danger to a free product, but people, it's free and you get rapid feedback, you don't have to use the feedback. I definitely think some sort of scoring to get top feed backers up to a higher level (which people could pay for) could create a value proposition.

Re: Review others websites and they review yours

#38
post #23

Feedback Army will get you many responses without giving up anything more than a few dollars. http://www.feedbackarmy.com

Raphael, have you added filtering by reviewer's location? Most of responses come from Asia and from people eager to earn your 60c per response. They are positively biased at best, and half-assed and incompetent at worst.

Dear [person whose name I don't know], You have a right to reject (and automatically request a new response) for any half-assed or incompetent responses.

That said: I receive a lot of positive feedback on the service and in the instances when someone contacts me with a bad experience, I take care of them. I'm a little surprised to see such a pointed comment about FBA on Hacker News. If you used the service and had a poor experience, I wish you would have given me a chance to do something to make it right with you.

Re: Review others websites and they review yours

#39
post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Raphael, have you added filtering by reviewer's location? Most of responses come from Asia and from people eager to earn your 60c per response. They are positively biased at best, and half-assed and incompetent at worst.

Dear [person whose name I don't know], You have a right to reject (and automatically request a new response) for any half-assed or incompetent responses. That said: I receive a lot of positive feedback on the service and in the instances when someone contacts me with a bad experience, I take care of them. I'm a little surprised to see such a pointed comment about FBA on Hacker News. If you used the service and had a…

We spoke over the email back in July. I emailed you to say that the quality of the feedback had gone substantially down for the reasons I posted above. You replied suggesting to reject as many responses as I felt needed and alternatively to refund the purchase. This is just, and you do in fact take care of the poor experiences.

I rejected good half of responses, but it also made me realize this:

Having thought a bit more about this whole situation here's what I think is the root of the frustration - I would rather not get to the point of needing to reject comments.

There are some obviously half-assed comments, and these are easy to reject. However there are other comments, still useless, that clearly had some time and effort put into them. Rejecting these seems unfair, especially considering the price point. And there is lots of these comments.

That's why an ability to focus the survey more precisely is IMO essential.

Hence - my question. Have you got a chance to add country filters to FA or not?

Re: Review others websites and they review yours

#40
post #14

I feel that there is the danger here of a blind leading the blind effect. I tried it out for giggles. Not to pick on my reviewer, but here: There are alot of words on the landing page [of BCC]. Look at some of the ycombinator pages and you will notice the average site has about 45 words and 4-9 links. Don't give them so many options and so much to read. Otherewise, looks good! The quality of your users' interactions…

"I feel that there is the danger here of a blind leading the blind effect."

So... exactly like HN comment threads?

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