Sounds accurate. There is no realistic path to citizenship or even permanent residency in the USA for highly skilled immigrants from India. While the high salaries and quality of life are attractive for someone straight out of college, you quickly realize that this isn't the place to be if you want to buy a house, start a family, or make any other major life decision when you could be asked to pack up and leave tomorrow for any or no reason.
H-1B: As immigration furor roils Silicon Valley, Canada smooths way for techies
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Re: H-1B: As immigration furor roils Silicon Valley, Canada smooths way for techies
#42Isn't compensation, even after adjusting for cost of living and health insurance, much lower in Canada than anywhere in the U.S.?
Most people don't care about money, they want to raise family in a safe environment, I interview a lot of foreigners and there is clear trend that they don't want to go to the US with the current administration.
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#43While many in the comments are throwing salary/cost of living/taxes numbers left and right but no one is making a case for extreme winters in Canada vs the Bay Area. I can understand that it might not mean a lot to some but for me it can be a deal breaker.
Vancouver is like Seattle, only a bit more rain than SF. Less fog.
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#44Isn't compensation, even after adjusting for cost of living and health insurance, much lower in Canada than anywhere in the U.S.?
Yup. Last time I looked, Seattle paid twice what Toronto did. Seattle was more expensive, but only about 25%.
Canada just doesn't have the sort of top-tier companies that go head to head competing for talent that the US does. Hence, rates are lower.
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#45I suppose my comments from yesterdays thread about "Cheap places to live with a good intellectual atmosphere" is relevant: I did the math for Toronto(which is more expensive than Montreal, and about the same as Vancouver). For a typical software engineer, taxes take away 25% of gross pay in Ontario while it's over 30% in California and New York. Cost of living is much less(by 30-40% if you rent) in Toronto compared t…
data, groceries and restaurants are 20% cheaper(adjusted for currency) Why would you adjust for currency when you're paid in Canadian dollars?
It's 20% cheaper EVEN considering the difference in currency.
Re: H-1B: As immigration furor roils Silicon Valley, Canada smooths way for techies
#46Isn't compensation, even after adjusting for cost of living and health insurance, much lower in Canada than anywhere in the U.S.?
Most people don't care about money, they want to raise family in a safe environment, I interview a lot of foreigners and there is clear trend that they don't want to go to the US with the current administration.
Are the countries these workers coming from so much more unsafe than the US or Canada? Otherwise, I think people do care about the money (as they should!).
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#47Sounds accurate. There is no realistic path to citizenship or even permanent residency in the USA for highly skilled immigrants from India. While the high salaries and quality of life are attractive for someone straight out of college, you quickly realize that this isn't the place to be if you want to buy a house, start a family, or make any other major life decision when you could be asked to pack up and leave tomor…
That sounds great. Come to USA after college, make a million dollars in a few years, move back home, get married, and build the Indian economy. You don't want a country where every who has the ability will leave.
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#48While many in the comments are throwing salary/cost of living/taxes numbers left and right but no one is making a case for extreme winters in Canada vs the Bay Area. I can understand that it might not mean a lot to some but for me it can be a deal breaker.
The issue here is people are forced to leave Bay Area or felt they are unable or not welcome to stay. So there is no free choice between the two.
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#49My sister went to Germany for her masters. She was an exceptional mechanical engineer with several awards and tier-1 research papers. If no path to citizenship it was pointless to invest your life in a country that does not welcome you.
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#50While many in the comments are throwing salary/cost of living/taxes numbers left and right but no one is making a case for extreme winters in Canada vs the Bay Area. I can understand that it might not mean a lot to some but for me it can be a deal breaker.
Hmm yeah hard winters or having your spouse deported. Hard choice.
Yes it is a huge socio-economic issue but I was referring only to economic part of it. No one would ever want to be separated from their family.