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InVision has no physical headquarters and all 700 employees work remotely

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Re: InVision has no physical headquarters and all 700 employees work remotely

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Post by pixelmonkey »

new_here wrote: post #69

How do employment / legal contracts work with employees in this case? Are they just anchored to the legal system where the company is registered? Do employees need visas to work for the company remotely and so on?

If it is a US-based company, for US-based hires, your best option is to use a good PEO (note: all PEOs suck, but some suck less than others), which will have presence in all US states and thus be able to handle benefits, payroll, and local employment laws. For international staff, you need to hire a lawyer.

Re: InVision has no physical headquarters and all 700 employees work remotely

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Post by okmokmz »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #72
anoncoward111 wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some points in response to this: I keep nearly all of my gross because of the standard deduction and the nature of cash tips. My rent is $650 a month whereas most people in the bay or in Boston are paying $2200 for equivalent quality. I dont spend 2 hours stuck in traffic or a hot subway every day-- most days I ride my moped which gets 90mpg and uses a hilariously cheap blend of oil and fuel from the hardware store.…

Because you could be making $100k and banking $50k. Every hour you work is an hour you'll never get back. But, as you said, you feel welcomed by your employer and feel the job is stable. If this is what you prioritize, that's your decision.

>Because you could be making $100k and banking $50k.

But is it really worth it if you have to live in an area you don't want to live, spend time commuting that you'd rather work on something else, etc. that could potentially affect one's stress/anxiety and even cause health issues? I'm aware that there are people with jobs making 6+ figures that are also very happy with their jobs, but I also don't think it's fair to frame his situation as a negative simply because he could be making more.

Re: InVision has no physical headquarters and all 700 employees work remotely

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Post by athenot »

madcaptenor wrote: post #45
JoeAltmaier wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've remote worked for decades, and that isn't my experience. Video/screensharing meetings are far more productive in my experience, but only if everybody is using the tool. Its frustrating to hold an in-person meeting at the office, and try to add remote folks. The local ones shut out the 'voice on the phone' and start drawing on boards and paper and it breaks down. I spent 10 years in a company that had all meeting…

"Also with our tool, it took an average of 30 seconds to get a meeting started." You must have better phone-meeting tools than my company does.

There are good meeting solutions that make meeting remotely a lot easier. I happen to work on Webex Teams (full disclosure) but we dogfood our solution and having video meetings call participants in when it starts makes us jump into the meet without the old "wait till quorum is here, can you hear me, etc". Best, that happens by just adding @spark or @webex in the location of the calendar tool (Mail.app, Outlook…).

Phone is good as a backup to poor internet connection but HD video with good audio is so much better.

Re: InVision has no physical headquarters and all 700 employees work remotely

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Post by dubya123 »

imglorp wrote: post #21
dubya123 wrote: post #16

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How is this any different than a job at Big Tech in SF or NYC?

Because there, you're _only_ competing with local SF/NYC applicants, within like 1h drive radius or whatever.

SF and NYC attract the top talent from around the world.

Re: InVision has no physical headquarters and all 700 employees work remotely

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Post by commandlinefan »

thfuran wrote: post #47
anoncoward111 wrote: post #7

I moved from the software sales industry to waiting tables in a rural area. I have a 10 minute commute by car or moped, I breathe fresh air, and I make enough money to support myself. My colleagues are my friends and my boss has never once slighted me on anything. There is something to be said about the perks of working remotely, but for once it is nice to work in a supportive, engaging environment that is close to m…

I work in the software industry, have a 10 minute commute, breathe fresh air, make enough money to support myself, my colleagues are my friends, and my boss has never once slighted me. A shit job is a shit job, but you don't have to leave software to find a job that isn't shit.

> you don't have to leave software to find a job that isn't shit.

What you say sounds plausible, but it runs counter to my anecdotal experience.

Re: InVision has no physical headquarters and all 700 employees work remotely

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Post by lotsofpulp »

anoncoward111 wrote: post #59
pc86 wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just to run the numbers for everyone, this is $31,200 assuming no vacation all year. So making less money gross as a waiter than you're able to put into a savings account (after taxes and all expenses) as a software developer. I don't think that will be surprising information for anyone here. I've waited tables before and I'd rather be a software developer for half the median software developer salary than a waiter f…

Some points in response to this: I keep nearly all of my gross because of the standard deduction and the nature of cash tips. My rent is $650 a month whereas most people in the bay or in Boston are paying $2200 for equivalent quality. I dont spend 2 hours stuck in traffic or a hot subway every day-- most days I ride my moped which gets 90mpg and uses a hilariously cheap blend of oil and fuel from the hardware store.…

>I keep nearly all of my gross because of the standard deduction and the nature of cash tips.

Instead of the "nature of cash tips", it would be more accurate to state "the nature of people to evade taxes (or do other bad things as defined by society) when chances of being caught are sufficiently low".

Also why I always use credit card and tip with credit card.

Re: InVision has no physical headquarters and all 700 employees work remotely

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Post by wonderwonder »

anoncoward111 wrote: post #49
okmokmz wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How much of a hit did you take on salary, and how much did your cost of living decrease? Would you do it again? I've thought about leaving my career to do something that wouldn't require a commute, and would allow me to live in a very remote area, but I'm not brave enough to take the plunge

Thank you so much for your questions. My high year in sales was 110k W2, 70k post tax, and 35k post expenses like food rent and car. My low year was 45k, aka just plain old base salary, and after taxes and expenses I broke even. I was living in a pretty expensive part of Boston. I'm sure I could have found a really nasty bedroom for like $650 if I wanted to haha. Right now as a waiter I'm making about $600 a week pre…

Good for you, Cant put a price on reduced stress and happiness. I quit a developer job because of the massive stress and travel involved and took a 50% pay cut. I left software completely for 4 years. I was much happier.

I am back in software now making 50% more than the prior software job I quit but I work from home and enjoy the industry. Sometimes a break for a few years is just what the doctor ordered.

Re: InVision has no physical headquarters and all 700 employees work remotely

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Post by marmaduke »

pixelmonkey wrote: post #79

Perhaps more interesting is that Elastic, the company behind Elasticsearch, just IPO'ed on NYSE, and they, too, have a fully distributed team of over 700 -- might even be trending toward 1000 by now. Zapier is another one at multi-hundred-person scale, and is a YC company. A couple other scaled-up ones on this model include Automattic (company behind Wordpress), DataStax (company behind Cassandra). There is also Wiki…

> less interesting since they have a non-profit mission tied to the internet-as-community and FOSS

Doesn’t this aspect make them even more interesting?

Re: InVision has no physical headquarters and all 700 employees work remotely

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Post by toomuchtodo »

okmokmz wrote: post #92
toomuchtodo wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because you could be making $100k and banking $50k. Every hour you work is an hour you'll never get back. But, as you said, you feel welcomed by your employer and feel the job is stable. If this is what you prioritize, that's your decision.

>Because you could be making $100k and banking $50k. But is it really worth it if you have to live in an area you don't want to live, spend time commuting that you'd rather work on something else, etc. that could potentially affect one's stress/anxiety and even cause health issues? I'm aware that there are people with jobs making 6+ figures that are also very happy with their jobs, but I also don't think it's fair to…

> But is it really worth it if you have to live in an area you don't want to live, spend time commuting that you'd rather work on something else, etc. that could potentially affect one's stress/anxiety and even cause health issues?

Of course not. I'd encourage a passive job search of remote roles. One should always be looking for their next job. One should always be padding their emergency fund, so they have 6-12 months of reserves. The better your financial position, the more power you have over your own destiny.

Re: InVision has no physical headquarters and all 700 employees work remotely

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Post by amyjess »

pixelmonkey wrote: post #79

Perhaps more interesting is that Elastic, the company behind Elasticsearch, just IPO'ed on NYSE, and they, too, have a fully distributed team of over 700 -- might even be trending toward 1000 by now. Zapier is another one at multi-hundred-person scale, and is a YC company. A couple other scaled-up ones on this model include Automattic (company behind Wordpress), DataStax (company behind Cassandra). There is also Wiki…

> There is also Wikimedia, Canonical, and Mozilla -- perhaps those 3 are less interesting since they have a non-profit mission tied to the internet-as-community and FOSS.

Canonical is a for-profit company. They're also not fully distributed, either; I have a friend who moved to the UK a couple of years ago to work out of Canonical's headquarters.

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