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InVision has no physical headquarters and all 700 employees work remotely

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Re: InVision has no physical headquarters and all 700 employees work remotely

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I don't do UI design so I never heard of InVision before. I googled around and Crunchbase says they've gotten $235 million in funding[1]. A youtube channel shows some demos[2].

Is InVision considered the best of the design tools compared to competitors?

[1] https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/invisionapp#section-...

[2] https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCndfHdRdEiGOyCOgxQ4W9YQ

Re: InVision has no physical headquarters and all 700 employees work remotely

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Found it interesting, and likely a very good idea, that they have set ‘office hours’ which are the same for everyone globally. That might be very inconvenient if you’re in a locale where you wind up working nights, but it does give a level of predictability and ensures that everyone is available at a given time.

Clearly unworkable if you're on the other side of the globe though, unless you're willing to live at completely different hours as the rest of the society you're part of. I suppose if that ever becomes an issue they could settle on two or three time zones to try and accommodate almost everyone. It can be inconvenient but it can also sometimes be efficient for tasks that lend themselves to working in "shifts". Like yo…

Is it really unworkable though? Shift work has always been common in factories. Outsourced call centers in Asia sometimes work during US daytime hours.

Re: InVision has no physical headquarters and all 700 employees work remotely

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While this is no doubt great I don't really believe a statement "But most importantly, Frein said, it helps InVision build a better product". Under what metric? I don't believe that people who are forced to cooperate with video and screen sharing options can deliver a better product than these, who can walk up to a colleague and ask them in person or use a whiteboard to explain their problem. In the end, remote worke…

I've remote worked for decades, and that isn't my experience. Video/screensharing meetings are far more productive in my experience, but only if everybody is using the tool. Its frustrating to hold an in-person meeting at the office, and try to add remote folks. The local ones shut out the 'voice on the phone' and start drawing on boards and paper and it breaks down. I spent 10 years in a company that had all meeting…

I agree. The core tools that allow full remote teams to even function can make a remote team more productive than the average team. Things like: documenting everything religiously, ditching physical location-specific security VPNs, recording everything, letting employees observe every meeting, cloud tools, etc.

For centralized teams, it's difficult to get to this point because it requires willpower and discipline to not take the "easy way out" and just talk about it in-person. Remote teams have an advantage here because there is no easy way out.

But, that comes with obvious drawbacks; it's not easy.

You're right that the worst case scenario is "semi-remote", even if that just means two centralized offices trying to collaborate.

One of the ideas I am warming up to is centralizing (say 75% of) hiring around specific cities, and paying for specific coworking space membership in those cities. You can remain a remote company, but employees have the freedom to organize days when they want to work together in those pre-selected locations.

Re: InVision has no physical headquarters and all 700 employees work remotely

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I underestimated how high the competition is for remote work. All my attempts failed so far despite having well customized application materials. I didn't submit to hundreds maybe around 20. Most of the time I never even reached a technical test at these companies which I thought would be the hardest part.

I've managed to get a remote gig at some point, and i'm sure i can go 100% remote at my present employer. Seems to be the best way like someone above mentioned is to get a non remote job, prove yourself to be a valuable asset and then negotiate remote, never failed in my case.

Re: InVision has no physical headquarters and all 700 employees work remotely

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post #4

While this is no doubt great I don't really believe a statement "But most importantly, Frein said, it helps InVision build a better product". Under what metric? I don't believe that people who are forced to cooperate with video and screen sharing options can deliver a better product than these, who can walk up to a colleague and ask them in person or use a whiteboard to explain their problem. In the end, remote worke…

Their product is a computer-based design collaboration tool. It's hard to work remotely, but that's the exact challenge they are trying to confront.

Re: InVision has no physical headquarters and all 700 employees work remotely

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post #31

I don't do UI design so I never heard of InVision before. I googled around and Crunchbase says they've gotten $235 million in funding[1]. A youtube channel shows some demos[2]. Is InVision considered the best of the design tools compared to competitors? [1] https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/invisionapp#section-... [2] https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCndfHdRdEiGOyCOgxQ4W9YQ

They used to be, they filled an unmet need in the design tools space (clickable prototypes) for years. Lately tools for interface design (Figma, Framer X, Quartz Composer, Origami, etc) have Invision’s main feature baked into their software (where the work is being created) so there‘s less need for designers to use it. Invision intended to get into the creation tools market, but suffered a poorly-managed rollout of their application, and has been floundering since.

Re: InVision has no physical headquarters and all 700 employees work remotely

#37
I think remote works well when the company caters to remote employees as a main priority (maybe through adoption of remote friendly processes). I've worked in teams where i was the only remote employee and everyone else was in the office, suffice to say that i missed out on a lot of important information.

Re: InVision has no physical headquarters and all 700 employees work remotely

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post #31

I don't do UI design so I never heard of InVision before. I googled around and Crunchbase says they've gotten $235 million in funding[1]. A youtube channel shows some demos[2]. Is InVision considered the best of the design tools compared to competitors? [1] https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/invisionapp#section-... [2] https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCndfHdRdEiGOyCOgxQ4W9YQ

Even UI developers often get exposed to Invision, especially if mobile is involved - it’s a very useful tool.

Re: InVision has no physical headquarters and all 700 employees work remotely

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Clearly unworkable if you're on the other side of the globe though, unless you're willing to live at completely different hours as the rest of the society you're part of. I suppose if that ever becomes an issue they could settle on two or three time zones to try and accommodate almost everyone. It can be inconvenient but it can also sometimes be efficient for tasks that lend themselves to working in "shifts". Like yo…

Is it really unworkable though? Shift work has always been common in factories. Outsourced call centers in Asia sometimes work during US daytime hours.

For most professionals? Yes.

Now, if we're talking early morning and late night conference calls--even on a semi-regular basis, that's one thing. That's pretty common for a lot of co-workers I know. But day-to-day office hours that are in the middle of the night? Not so much.

It's relatively straightforward to schedule some overlap between the Americas and most of Europe. But there's no way to also do APAC in a way that isn't really painful for someone.

Re: InVision has no physical headquarters and all 700 employees work remotely

#40
This is a little light on details - but it's good to see some more "happy words" on remote success stories. I've been remote for a couple of years and would like to stay that way. Puff pieces like this do help.

What I've noticed:

- When people write things down, communication is improved. - Ad-hoc communication is far easier with tools like Slack.

My current company is about 1000 employees now. Communication is actually better then my last couple of companies, and I think it's mostly because we have fewer "gatekeepers" of information.

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