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I'm Just a Middle-Aged House Dad Addicted to Pot

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Re: I'm Just a Middle-Aged House Dad Addicted to Pot

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Post by pfisch »

iliaznk wrote: post #16
twblalock wrote: post #3

One of the upsides of legalization is that a lot of the false claims made about marijuana are going to come under heavy scrutiny. Some of this will be good for marijuana enthusiasts, but some will be bad. I've lost count of the times I've been told by marijuana fans that marijuana is not addictive, and that smoking it is not bad for your lungs. I expect both of those myths to be refuted in the coming years. In partic…

Of course it is addictive, otherwise people wouldn't come back to it after the first try. And as for harm to lungs – does anyone really think that combustion products (regardless of what's burning) can not be harmful for human body?

Addictive in the way any form of entertainment can be I guess. It isn’t physically addictive.

Re: I'm Just a Middle-Aged House Dad Addicted to Pot

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Post by mrlatinos »

sosborn wrote: post #11
mrlatinos wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So is this a symptom of addiction, or just lack of discipline? I smoke plenty, but I know when and how to stop.

That’s great, but that doesn’t mean other people can’t have different experiences with pot.

Neglecting a child isn't something to take lightly, and it isn't something I could ever imagine doing. But sure, everyone is different so we'll give this guy a pass and attack a plant instead.

Re: I'm Just a Middle-Aged House Dad Addicted to Pot

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Post by nv-vn »

iliaznk wrote: post #16
twblalock wrote: post #3

One of the upsides of legalization is that a lot of the false claims made about marijuana are going to come under heavy scrutiny. Some of this will be good for marijuana enthusiasts, but some will be bad. I've lost count of the times I've been told by marijuana fans that marijuana is not addictive, and that smoking it is not bad for your lungs. I expect both of those myths to be refuted in the coming years. In partic…

Of course it is addictive, otherwise people wouldn't come back to it after the first try. And as for harm to lungs – does anyone really think that combustion products (regardless of what's burning) can not be harmful for human body?

A lot of stoners are convinced it reverses the damage or something because "THC cures cancer"

Re: I'm Just a Middle-Aged House Dad Addicted to Pot

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Post by Nursie »

iliaznk wrote: post #16
twblalock wrote: post #3

One of the upsides of legalization is that a lot of the false claims made about marijuana are going to come under heavy scrutiny. Some of this will be good for marijuana enthusiasts, but some will be bad. I've lost count of the times I've been told by marijuana fans that marijuana is not addictive, and that smoking it is not bad for your lungs. I expect both of those myths to be refuted in the coming years. In partic…

Of course it is addictive, otherwise people wouldn't come back to it after the first try. And as for harm to lungs – does anyone really think that combustion products (regardless of what's burning) can not be harmful for human body?

> Of course it is addictive, otherwise people wouldn't come back to it after the first try.

So is cheese then. And pens. And fairground rides. And, well, everything.

I'm not disputing that it is addictive, but that reasoning doesn't work. Something can be useful or just enjoyable and people will repeat the experience without that necessarily telling us whether it's addictive.

Re: I'm Just a Middle-Aged House Dad Addicted to Pot

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Post by sosborn »

mrlatinos wrote: post #22
sosborn wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s great, but that doesn’t mean other people can’t have different experiences with pot.

Neglecting a child isn't something to take lightly, and it isn't something I could ever imagine doing. But sure, everyone is different so we'll give this guy a pass and attack a plant instead.

How did you get there from my comment? I’m all for legalization but that doesn’t mean that I don’t see that people can develop unhealthy relationships with it.

Re: I'm Just a Middle-Aged House Dad Addicted to Pot

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Post by [deleted] »

the_reformation wrote: post #19
paavoova wrote: post #12

Marijuana is pure Soma. The people pushing, fighting for legalization are digging their own grave in one form or another, especially as far as sentiments of freedom are concerned - the government wins one way or another. You cannot argue against sobriety without appealing to inherent weaknesses of human nature. That alone speaks volumes in regards to the value of this drug.

Love what this argument is touching upon, few questions though: 1. What is Soma? 2. How does the government win either way?

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Re: I'm Just a Middle-Aged House Dad Addicted to Pot

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Post by mrlatinos »

tomjakubowski wrote: post #20
iliaznk wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Of course it is addictive, otherwise people wouldn't come back to it after the first try. And as for harm to lungs – does anyone really think that combustion products (regardless of what's burning) can not be harmful for human body?

> otherwise people wouldn't come back to it after the first try. Just repeating an action a second time doesn't suggest an addiction... am I missing something here?

You're missing that there are plenty of people who want a scapegoat for their lack of personal responsibility, and plenty of people who will enable them because they're already biased against the scapegoat.

Re: I'm Just a Middle-Aged House Dad Addicted to Pot

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Post by Svexax »

vishnugupta wrote: post #15
mrlatinos wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So is this a symptom of addiction, or just lack of discipline? I smoke plenty, but I know when and how to stop.

This is a test I did on myself to check if I'm addicted to sugar, so please take it in that context. Reduce your intake by 50% for about a week. Do you see a craving developing in you that's affecting your day to day life? Such as fatigue (both physical and mental), lack of focus, interest etc.,? If the answer is yes then you are probably on the verge of getting addicted. I'm not a doctor but my guess is that next st…

Now do the same test with air.

Re: I'm Just a Middle-Aged House Dad Addicted to Pot

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Post by robbick »

the_reformation wrote: post #19
paavoova wrote: post #12

Marijuana is pure Soma. The people pushing, fighting for legalization are digging their own grave in one form or another, especially as far as sentiments of freedom are concerned - the government wins one way or another. You cannot argue against sobriety without appealing to inherent weaknesses of human nature. That alone speaks volumes in regards to the value of this drug.

Love what this argument is touching upon, few questions though: 1. What is Soma? 2. How does the government win either way?

1. Soma is a fictional drug from A Brave New World that keeps everyone happy

Re: I'm Just a Middle-Aged House Dad Addicted to Pot

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Post by asveikau »

anigbrowl wrote: post #8

Actually, you're an asshole who likes pot and uses it as an excuse to behave badly. My drug use history reads like War and Peace and I don't have any aggressive or obnoxious episodes that I feel terrible about because I always considered that no matter what strange thing I put in my body I was responsible for for my own behavior, inebriated or not. This person needs help, and the first thing they need to do is take r…

He mentions depression. Some of those negative behaviors can also come from that. If that is a factor I think it's much more complicated than "taking responsibility".

He's very publicly being honest with some flaws, I don't think it's right to call him an asshole over it.

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