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Re: Snapchat CEO’s leaked memo on survival

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Re: Snapchat CEO’s leaked memo on survival

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Lost in all this is an important distinction that Snapchat wanted to make: they wanted to separate friends from influencers / celebrities / media. It was a good change. Another important thing Snapchat does is it doesn't show likes / followers publicly - when the whole world is chasing these numbers Snapchat has taken stance against it. The general philosophy they follow makes me think this is short term pain and the…

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Re: Snapchat CEO’s leaked memo on survival

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They had a working thing and then ruined it. I’m not sure how they managed to do that with a product change. Didn’t they have a way to release changes and measure impact before just forcing it on their entire user base? Once a company gets to this level, they need to recognize the role that luck played into their original product and design. They hit a resonance with people, and it was probably more luck and timing t…

I think you hit the nail on the head here. There were reports that came out from several sources that Evan ignored all feedback from product and design including hard numbers from early tests. There were apparently several groups internally that tried to stop the massive changes from dropping without adequate testing and iteration. Those groups were overridden by Evan in favor of "vision" and that apparent lack of di…

>I think the narrative of "product visionary" has been spun a bit too hard by the tech media and it likely has gotten to his head.

It has, and not only for this guy. Like the GP says, success in these things is more luck than anything else, like "vision".

Re: Snapchat CEO’s leaked memo on survival

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They had a working thing and then ruined it. I’m not sure how they managed to do that with a product change. Didn’t they have a way to release changes and measure impact before just forcing it on their entire user base? Once a company gets to this level, they need to recognize the role that luck played into their original product and design. They hit a resonance with people, and it was probably more luck and timing t…

> they need to recognize the role that luck played into their original product and design.

That's a strong lesson I've learned in life. Successful people _rarely_ know the precise reasons that they are successful, almost exactly for this reason.

You may be aware of many of the components of your success, but you won't be aware of all of them and it will be impossible for you to rank their importance correctly.

Keep this in mind when successful people talk about their success and offer suggestions on how to replicate it.

Re: Snapchat CEO’s leaked memo on survival

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Here's coverage without an insanely user hostile "WE ARE PART OF OATH YOUR PRIVACY IS IMPORTANT (BUT IT'S DIFFICULT TO FIND SETTINGS TO DISABLE COOKIES)" lightbox which cannot be dismissed: https://cheddar.com/videos/snap-ceo-evan-spiegel-company-mem...

Ublock Origin plus Cookiemonster list - I never see a cookie banner.

works on mobile?

Re: Snapchat CEO’s leaked memo on survival

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Lost in all this is an important distinction that Snapchat wanted to make: they wanted to separate friends from influencers / celebrities / media. It was a good change. Another important thing Snapchat does is it doesn't show likes / followers publicly - when the whole world is chasing these numbers Snapchat has taken stance against it. The general philosophy they follow makes me think this is short term pain and the…

It was a terrible change. People (most heavily: kids) like to consider celebrities their friends. People loved the close, barely filtered connection Snapchat gave them.

Re: Snapchat CEO’s leaked memo on survival

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They had a working thing and then ruined it. I’m not sure how they managed to do that with a product change. Didn’t they have a way to release changes and measure impact before just forcing it on their entire user base? Once a company gets to this level, they need to recognize the role that luck played into their original product and design. They hit a resonance with people, and it was probably more luck and timing t…

>Just because you have control over a platform with millions of users and can make changes doesn’t automatically mean you can do no wrong at this point.

Reminiscent of Digg v4.

Re: Snapchat CEO’s leaked memo on survival

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Did Snapchat really flop, or is the equity market undergoing a correction and return to sanity? Snapchat was a fun fad, not a sustainable enterprise. Everyone involved should have taken money off the table in the high times and realized the bubble component would pop.

You can call it a fad, but the truth is that they had and still have the opportunity to build a real business.

The reality is that despite how seemingly old the internet is, we're still in the relatively early stages. There aren't that many companies globally building content systems at scale and working through the challenges of what that means - at scale. Those skills in an organization are extraordinary valuable as old media starts to crumble and information infrastructure on the internet becomes the new fundamental fabric of society - moreso than even today.

I know that sounds a bit grandoise but that's the thinking behind the big bets behind companies like this. If Snap can just get some experienced, less impulsive leadership in place - they can still build an extremely valuable global media property. 180mm daily actives is no joke.

As you can tell, I'm skeptical of Snap in it's current state of management but I'm bullish on social media overall.

Re: Snapchat CEO’s leaked memo on survival

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They forced me off their platform. I have an older iPhone 4s and can not update past ios 9.3.5. Snapchat eventually forced an update and that required me having the latest ios which I could not even do since Apple stopped supporting this device years ago despite it still being a pretty good phone.

Re: Snapchat CEO’s leaked memo on survival

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Give credit where credit is due. Spiegel is digging deep, showing humility, and asking the right questions after Snap has been flailing for a long time. The crux of the issue is that they haven't launched anything fundamentally innovative and game-changing since the original Snapchat, which went insanely viral in the teen demographic.

In this sense they are following a similar path as Bebo, where I worked before they were acquired by AOL. Launch viral product to teens, blow up huge, score huge business deals, and then growth stagnates because it turns out the original vision only encompassed a product, not an entire platform. Bebo ended up selling to AOL right before it became clear the entire business model was failing thanks to Facebook. I saw a comment below about 2019 being the year that Snap is acquired. I could very much see that happening.

The only thing that would turn things around is if Spiegel can pull another rabbit out of his hat and launch a category-defining product somewhere. Augmented Reality could be where they do it. They did fail miserably with Spectacles, their first take on smartglasses, but again, give credit to them for having the balls to invest in hardware and ship a product. That said, the fact that they shipped a v2 of Spectacles that didn't fix any of the core problems with the original isn't a good sign.

Still, augmented reality is going to be the future of computing when it merges with consumer wearables. It's early days in this market. Every Big Tech company is racing to launch the iPhone of smartglasses. Snap has managed to be the first to launch consumer glasses with a camera. If they can pull their sh*t together and ship something that is actually useful and doesn't look ridiculous, they could still emerge as a dominant player.

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