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5G Got me Fired

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Re: 5G Got me Fired

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Post by deelowe »

torgian wrote: post #79
gurumeditations wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe Tesla receives negative press coverage for its poor workmanship, constant delays, near-unrepairability, bad labor conditions, union-busting, the CEO lying to investors, the CEO being unstable, precarious financial state, unfulfilled promises, reckless deadly computer-assisted driving sold as if it were self-driving, lack of independent competent management, a valuation highly dependent upon retaining a single e…

Gotta agree. Although I love what his space division is doing. With Mercedes getting into electric cars now, I think people will go for a Mercedes instead of a Tesla, especially if the price is right

Don't forget Porsche, which implies Audi, vw, and Lamborghini as well.

Re: 5G Got me Fired

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Post by davidmr »

marcus_holmes wrote: post #51
davidmr wrote: post #23

Am I missing something? He says PC Magazine fired him because he was critical of his 5G article and that rankled the magazine's sponsors. Who specifically are the sponsors he's thinking of? Is there any evidence whatsoever that this is what happened? So they linked his article about 5G to a different one. Why does that mean he was fired for writing the article? I feel like an application of Hanlon's Razor (not quite…

Having run a newspaper, I can confirm that advertisers do contact management and say "I didn't like that article, do something about it or we won't be advertising with you again". And the financial pressure is intense. You have many, many staff to pay, and the commercial pressure to keep advertisers happy is real and difficult to manage. I can totally believe that the magazine caved in to pressure from an advertiser…

I don’t deny at all that it happens, and I understand that management has a difficult path to tread, but he just threw out a claim that it had happened to him with absolutely no evidence or even plausible story of who did it or why.

Re: 5G Got me Fired

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Post by [deleted] »

yholio wrote: post #11
brokensegue wrote: post #6

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Does he raise good points? Reads like FUD to me. You could write basically the same article about wifi

I don't know what was the cause of him getting fired, but he certainly SHOULD be fired for such a sleazy sensationalist piece: > When you do a search for "5G is Safe" on Google and Bing, you get a number of negative stories and a laundry list of why some people believe it's unsafe. Companies may as well begin to market a 5G mobile phone with a skull and crossbones on it. Really, the entirety of his journalistic resea…

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Re: 5G Got me Fired

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Post by jryle70 »

gurumeditations wrote: post #66
Robotbeat wrote: post #62

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This makes me think that, besides the fact that Elon Musk seems to constantly has his foot in his mouth nowadays, this may be partly why Tesla has been getting so much negative press coverage (particularly headlines, which are usually written by editors, not the journalists who seem more objective to me). Tesla doesn't advertise. Everyone else in the industry does, bankrolling the press. I know the press will deny th…

Maybe Tesla receives negative press coverage for its poor workmanship, constant delays, near-unrepairability, bad labor conditions, union-busting, the CEO lying to investors, the CEO being unstable, precarious financial state, unfulfilled promises, reckless deadly computer-assisted driving sold as if it were self-driving, lack of independent competent management, a valuation highly dependent upon retaining a single e…

We're in a thread about native ad and misinformation, and here we go a comment that is blatantly spreading misinformation stated as facts.

Re: 5G Got me Fired

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Post by cvs268 »

Atleast we now know that the "PC" in "PC Magazine" now stands for "Politically Correct".

Everything now needs to be neutered down without offending anyone, especially any groups with deep pockets.

Re: 5G Got me Fired

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Post by malnourish »

jryle70 wrote: post #84
gurumeditations wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe Tesla receives negative press coverage for its poor workmanship, constant delays, near-unrepairability, bad labor conditions, union-busting, the CEO lying to investors, the CEO being unstable, precarious financial state, unfulfilled promises, reckless deadly computer-assisted driving sold as if it were self-driving, lack of independent competent management, a valuation highly dependent upon retaining a single e…

We're in a thread about native ad and misinformation, and here we go a comment that is blatantly spreading misinformation stated as facts.

Would you mind sharing what is misinformation, and what is factual, in the parent comment?

Re: 5G Got me Fired

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Post by lettergram »

As far as I can tell, it's almost as if the vast majority of articles on the web are native ads. When the regular article writers have to compete against the native ads to get views on their content... they really don't have a choice.

Native ads are presented as stock market news, the NYT publishes it regularly, really what's the point... Figured I'd even start doing it on my blog (mostly a joke):

https://austingwalters.com/mainstream-news-is-awful/

Fact is, it's the new world we live in. Just like I may pay for cable and I get ads; I can pay for the NYT and their content is nothing more than an ad.

Re: 5G Got me Fired

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Post by utopcell »

kbenson wrote: post #75
HBlix wrote: post #50

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On the upside, if Dvorak thought 5G was crap, then it’s practically guaranteed to be a fantastic and successful technology.

Not that I read the article that was removed, but in this he said he wasn't even that critical himself, just pointing towards all the other critical articles and noting they need to fix whatever is causing them to be written.

So the jury is still out for 5G, not a guaranteed success ?

Re: 5G Got me Fired

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Post by stickfigure »

jandrese wrote: post #37
Barrin92 wrote: post #7

>This is a cautionary tale. Anyone writing for any publisher in today’s commercial market, where the managed advertorial and native ad seems to be the only way to make money, needs to be cautious. More importantly today’s readers need to be a little more than cautious when believing anything. Native advertising is a most insidious concept and should be rejected by every publisher. Instead it is welcomed by the broadc…

This sort of problem became more or less inevitable once people stopped paying for content. With a traditional newspaper your readers are footing at least part of the bill for the articles, so you are beholden to them to keep them informed. At least in theory. These days however the only payment is coming from advertisers, so they are the only ones you need to keep happy. This is the same problem that TV and Radio ne…

With a traditional newspaper your readers are footing at least part of the bill for the articles

When was that exactly?

Back when I used to pay for a physical newspaper thrown at my door, I remember it often said that the price covered printing and delivery and most of the newspaper's income came from advertising. Was this wrong? It doesn't seem like it... it was sub $1 per issue, which seems about an order of magnitude less than what Amazon would charge.

Re: 5G Got me Fired

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Post by nemild »

stordoff wrote: post #63
marcus_holmes wrote: post #51

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Having run a newspaper, I can confirm that advertisers do contact management and say "I didn't like that article, do something about it or we won't be advertising with you again". And the financial pressure is intense. You have many, many staff to pay, and the commercial pressure to keep advertisers happy is real and difficult to manage. I can totally believe that the magazine caved in to pressure from an advertiser…

> I can totally believe that the magazine caved in to pressure from an advertiser to sack a journalist and pull a story. As an example of where it has happened: > Gerstmann revealed that his firing was in fact related to the low review score he had given to Kane & Lynch, though his explanation cited other similar events that led up to the termination, including a 7.5 (good) rating given to Ratchet & Clank Future: Too…

Lots more examples in my media literacy guide:

https://github.com/nemild/hack-the-media

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