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5G Got me Fired

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Re: 5G Got me Fired

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Post by bunnycorn »

brandonmenc wrote: post #54
bunnycorn wrote: post #35

John C. Dvorak is a troll and the record holder of being wrong. He is almost everything that's bad on "tech journalism" concentrated in one. Specially regarding his brand of hate, Apple. He mentioned that the "mouse" of the Macintosh was bad ("There is no evidence that people want to use these things."), he claimed that Apple was going to discontinue OS X and switch to Windows (according to his "sources"), he argued…

> "There is no evidence that people want to use these things." He was correct - there was no evidence, at the time, that people wanted to use a mouse. Also, obligatory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOHzHVF-4Mg

In 1984 people didn't knew if they wanted or didn't want to use a mouse. Most people didn't even used PCs, much less the extremely expensive machines that had a real GUI and some software to try it out.

But it's the job of a journalist, specifically a columnist, to be above the average Joe.

Re: 5G Got me Fired

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Post by matchagaucho »

ghaff wrote: post #9

With respect to the actual post, the issue has come up, e.g. https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/pa8bpk/5g-wireles... (And, yeah, Marin County.) Even if it represents a minority viewpoint, 5G health concerns aren't quite crackpot theory land. That said, column seems more than a bit sensationalistic and one-sided --but not really all that different from many things that Dvorak has written over the years.

The same city that banned 5G for health reasons also leads the state in rejecting vaccines for children (anti-vaxxers).

https://patch.com/california/millvalley/mill-valley-parents-...

Re: 5G Got me Fired

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Post by bunnycorn »

asveikau wrote: post #49
bunnycorn wrote: post #35

John C. Dvorak is a troll and the record holder of being wrong. He is almost everything that's bad on "tech journalism" concentrated in one. Specially regarding his brand of hate, Apple. He mentioned that the "mouse" of the Macintosh was bad ("There is no evidence that people want to use these things."), he claimed that Apple was going to discontinue OS X and switch to Windows (according to his "sources"), he argued…

> he claimed that Apple was going to discontinue OS X and switch to Windows (according to his "sources") I thought something like that was on the table in NT days (remember it used to support PowerPC). That would have been pre Jobs return and pre OS X though.

No, it was in Feb 2006.

In 2006, Mac OS X was glowing hot with Tiger release.

Re: 5G Got me Fired

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Post by [deleted] »

yholio wrote: post #11
brokensegue wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does he raise good points? Reads like FUD to me. You could write basically the same article about wifi

I don't know what was the cause of him getting fired, but he certainly SHOULD be fired for such a sleazy sensationalist piece: > When you do a search for "5G is Safe" on Google and Bing, you get a number of negative stories and a laundry list of why some people believe it's unsafe. Companies may as well begin to market a 5G mobile phone with a skull and crossbones on it. Really, the entirety of his journalistic resea…

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Re: 5G Got me Fired

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Post by kbenson »

HBlix wrote: post #50
davidmr wrote: post #23

Am I missing something? He says PC Magazine fired him because he was critical of his 5G article and that rankled the magazine's sponsors. Who specifically are the sponsors he's thinking of? Is there any evidence whatsoever that this is what happened? So they linked his article about 5G to a different one. Why does that mean he was fired for writing the article? I feel like an application of Hanlon's Razor (not quite…

On the upside, if Dvorak thought 5G was crap, then it’s practically guaranteed to be a fantastic and successful technology.

Not that I read the article that was removed, but in this he said he wasn't even that critical himself, just pointing towards all the other critical articles and noting they need to fix whatever is causing them to be written.

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Post by zdragnar »

basicplus2 wrote: post #68
bArray wrote: post #29

>Addendum — the original 5G column is still up in India! Click here. Then the dreaded "403 Not allowed". Archived here: http://web.archive.org/web/20180913212959/https://in.pcmag.c...

Thanks for that! Here's the critical bit... Because the industry is too cheap to study the health effects of the technology itself, it lets this sort of product out the door despite the fact that it has already been weaponized by the military http://web.archive.org/web/20180930061356/https://jnlwp.defe... These frequencies are so poor at travelling long distances, they need a transmitter on nearly every telephone pol…

Aren't the frequencies regulated by the FCC? Why should industry bear the burden of proving something safe that the government has already approved? It's not the world I like, but it's the one we're in.

Edit: just realized I missed where the quote ended. My question remains, though I suppose patent isn't really who I meant to ask.

Re: 5G Got me Fired

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Post by asveikau »

bunnycorn wrote: post #73
asveikau wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> he claimed that Apple was going to discontinue OS X and switch to Windows (according to his "sources") I thought something like that was on the table in NT days (remember it used to support PowerPC). That would have been pre Jobs return and pre OS X though.

No, it was in Feb 2006. In 2006, Mac OS X was glowing hot with Tiger release.

For clarity, you mean to say that Dvorak claimed it in 2006.

I am saying I read or heard that it was discussed in real life in the 90s. This is unrelated.

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Post by torgian »

gurumeditations wrote: post #66
Robotbeat wrote: post #62

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This makes me think that, besides the fact that Elon Musk seems to constantly has his foot in his mouth nowadays, this may be partly why Tesla has been getting so much negative press coverage (particularly headlines, which are usually written by editors, not the journalists who seem more objective to me). Tesla doesn't advertise. Everyone else in the industry does, bankrolling the press. I know the press will deny th…

Maybe Tesla receives negative press coverage for its poor workmanship, constant delays, near-unrepairability, bad labor conditions, union-busting, the CEO lying to investors, the CEO being unstable, precarious financial state, unfulfilled promises, reckless deadly computer-assisted driving sold as if it were self-driving, lack of independent competent management, a valuation highly dependent upon retaining a single e…

Gotta agree. Although I love what his space division is doing. With Mercedes getting into electric cars now, I think people will go for a Mercedes instead of a Tesla, especially if the price is right

Re: 5G Got me Fired

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Post by gsich »

Karunamon wrote: post #60
dwaltrip wrote: post #58

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5g affecting health isn't crackpot theory?

Unknown. There is an impressive-looking group of credentials behind a petition[1] to halt 5G rollouts in the EU until more research can be done. The science just isn't settled yet, partly because doing a rigorous controlled trial in real world conditions is just about impossible. Keep in mind it's not just about cancer, it's any health effect of any kind . The nature of the shorter wavelengths of 5G means that more t…

Most of 5G will be deployed in the same bands as GSM/UMTS/LTE anyway.
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