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Re: Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss reports

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Post by dimgl » Sat, Oct 06, 2018, 8:55 PM UTC

creato wrote: post #27

user3359 wrote: post #7

They're absolutely garbage at this. When I was _forced_ into the windows 10 update, it went through the process and appeared to finish but didn't put my desktop back. No problem I figured, they put it somewhere. So I did a file search, found the desktop in a folder, moved it back to the desktop. A day later it self-restarted and _completed the update_, replacing the desktop with the now empty desktop folder. I went t…

> I moved to Mac this year after being exclusively on Windows since '98. Funny, I use a Macbook pro at work, and windows at home. I'm not the kind of person that has strong preferences on tech, I use stuff until it stops working well and then I switch. My several (over time) work macbooks have been really bad. OSX has so many bugs, many of them seem really serious potential security issues (graphical corruption acros…

Completely anecdotal. While we're sharing anecdotal evidence, I have not once experienced anything you're talking about.

Re: Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss reports

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Post by jangosister » Sat, Oct 06, 2018, 8:57 PM UTC

m-p-3 wrote: post #79

le-mark wrote: post #39

Do businesses even use windows 10? Every company I've been at has been windows 7, only one was windows 8.1 a couple of years ago.

We switched to Windows 10 LTSB. Even the Enterprise version of Windows 10 is mostly consumer-level garbage.

LTSB is literally the best operating system I've used, it's got none of the Windows app junk that the normal version is and it's super reliable because the only updates it gets are security ones. It's a shame they don't just release that as the main branch.

Re: Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss reports

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Post by lostlogin » Sat, Oct 06, 2018, 8:57 PM UTC

QuinnyPig wrote: post #21

Every time I get irked with MacOS, or get annoyed with the iPad, I weigh moving back to Windows. Then I see threads like this…

As far as I can tell, the plateau is reached where you have a dislike of every platform and settle on a choice that is least bad.

Re: Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss reports

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Post by stepik777 » Sat, Oct 06, 2018, 8:58 PM UTC

tinza123 wrote: post #47

user3359 wrote: post #7

They're absolutely garbage at this. When I was _forced_ into the windows 10 update, it went through the process and appeared to finish but didn't put my desktop back. No problem I figured, they put it somewhere. So I did a file search, found the desktop in a folder, moved it back to the desktop. A day later it self-restarted and _completed the update_, replacing the desktop with the now empty desktop folder. I went t…

not to defend them, but my experience with that particular issue is normally they put all your old desktop folder / document folder stuff in c:/windows.old

In this particular case files are outright removed, not moved anywhere

Re: Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss reports

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Post by fermienrico » Sat, Oct 06, 2018, 8:58 PM UTC

capdeck wrote: post #43

fermienrico wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I purchased a full Windows 10 Pro license key and yet I am going to pirate the shit out of Windows. I don't want Microsoft siphoning off data from my PC. I don't want Cortana. I don't want ANY FUCKING THING except for a system that is minimal and it works. Why doesn't Microsoft make a developer friendly version NOT targeted for consumers (aka without all the bloat)!? Edit from the other post: Don’t forget the registr…

Why are you fighting the wind(ows)mills? Linux desktop is in it best shape since its inception. Mint (doesn't siphon), Ubuntu (siphons responsibly) or Manjaro (if you miss rolling updates, but for humans)... Why suffer needlessly?

I have all 3 systems: Mac, Windows and Linux.

Most engineering softwares are only and exclusively available on Windows. I’m a Mechanical Engineer.

Linux, I use for writing code with open source tools (gcc, clang).

Mac, I use for general purpose computing and media consumption.

Re: Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss reports

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Post by hrktb » Sat, Oct 06, 2018, 9:00 PM UTC

creato wrote: post #27

user3359 wrote: post #7

They're absolutely garbage at this. When I was _forced_ into the windows 10 update, it went through the process and appeared to finish but didn't put my desktop back. No problem I figured, they put it somewhere. So I did a file search, found the desktop in a folder, moved it back to the desktop. A day later it self-restarted and _completed the update_, replacing the desktop with the now empty desktop folder. I went t…

> I moved to Mac this year after being exclusively on Windows since '98. Funny, I use a Macbook pro at work, and windows at home. I'm not the kind of person that has strong preferences on tech, I use stuff until it stops working well and then I switch. My several (over time) work macbooks have been really bad. OSX has so many bugs, many of them seem really serious potential security issues (graphical corruption acros…

Wouldn’t it be a difference in the software you use for one context and the other ?

OSX has its share of dirty bugs but nothing out of the norm. You could entrust me your surface pro, and I’ll make it crash randomly with only legit pro software.

Re: Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss reports

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Post by [deleted] » Sat, Oct 06, 2018, 9:00 PM UTC

cortic wrote: post #75

derefr wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We're talking about herd immunity from viruses here. Imagine that there were a new deadly pandemic every few days. Should a human being, at that point, be allowed (by the social norms of their society, by law, whatever) to refuse to receive once-daily "vaccination updates"?

Yes. And its a bit creepy you think the answer should be no.

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Re: Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss reports

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Post by jimmaswell » Sat, Oct 06, 2018, 9:00 PM UTC

winrid wrote: post #19

The whole user experience of installing Windows 10 is abysmal. Wife got a new laptop and I watched her to the initial setup. Stupid things like an "enter your pin" dialog that automatically opens another dialog that closes if you hit enter. So you quickly type your pin and hit enter and just see the dialog flash. Or the confusing "remove" button for the fingerprint scanner setup that just removes all of your fingerpr…

My anecdote: I've painlessly ran trough the windows 10 setup at least 3 times now.

Re: Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss reports

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Post by sgwae » Sat, Oct 06, 2018, 9:02 PM UTC

vbezhenar wrote: post #85

sgwae wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It looks like desktop linux/ unknown browser is negligable in userbase. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_sys...

Why do you care? It works.

None of the major os vendors have great usabability. They work, but with lousy updates, and/or limited customization.

Some of the android phones I buy dont even have rooting options.

Re: Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss reports

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Post by warent » Sat, Oct 06, 2018, 9:03 PM UTC

winrid wrote: post #19

The whole user experience of installing Windows 10 is abysmal. Wife got a new laptop and I watched her to the initial setup. Stupid things like an "enter your pin" dialog that automatically opens another dialog that closes if you hit enter. So you quickly type your pin and hit enter and just see the dialog flash. Or the confusing "remove" button for the fingerprint scanner setup that just removes all of your fingerpr…

> ... dialog that automatically opens another dialog that closes if you hit enter.

I rarely get upset at computers these days, but this is one of the things that easily boils my blood. It happens with Windows and macOS machines at the most inopportune times. I'll be typing and hit enter, seeing a mysterious dialog appear and vanish in a flash as it stealthily hijacked my "Enter" stroke. "Great, who knows what I just accepted or declined."

It seems like a very basic UI consideration to discard any keystroke if the dialog spawned less than 1 to 3 seconds ago. Make it a global rule (Or better yet, a user setting) for all UI dialogs in the OS that is impossible for developers to override.