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Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss reports

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Re: Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss reports

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Post by arountheworld »

lurker456 wrote: post #73
makecheck wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Something is very weird about window displays in general. Take the list of wi-fi networks; sometimes the entire thing will just stop appearing , doing nothing when you click the icon! I eventually figured out that if I use Windows Search to pull up the WiFi Settings panel, and manually click the list of networks there, then the list is fixed (it does not appear in the Settings window though; it just pops up where it…

The QA team got folded into the main org a while ago. I'd be surprised if the person today in charge of the full test coverage has anywhere near the resources or weight to make an impact.

Do they even practice TDD or they just run tests on the clients?

Re: Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss reports

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Post by z3t4 »

I've never had a issue with Windows Update, but it can sometimes take hours and I like to imagine wth it's doing. My theory is that Microsoft has acres of test computers, so that when I run an upgrade they spin up a computer that match mine, install all the apps and drivers I have, runs the update, and runs some automated tests ...

Re: Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss reports

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Post by vbezhenar »

QuinnyPig wrote: post #21

Every time I get irked with MacOS, or get annoyed with the iPad, I weigh moving back to Windows. Then I see threads like this…

I returned to Windows after few years in macOS and I can't say anything bad about it. It works well. I know many people who upgraded without data loss. Sure, bug is bug, but don't overestimate the probability that it'll happen to you, it's not like MS releases untested software, just keep your backups.

Re: Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss reports

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Post by teddyh »

coeroble wrote: post #23
newnewpdro wrote: post #8

It has never ceased to amaze me the abuse MS customers continue to tolerate. Edit: Not that I'm suggesting Apple is any better. Proprietary software in general tends to exploit its users in various ways, if not initially, eventually.

I don't understand how having a data loss bug means Microsoft is "exploiting their users"

Anyone can make a mistake in making a new software update. But Microsoft, like any proprietary software vendor, is denying their users the right and ability to discover and fix problems for themselves, or to hire anyone to do it for them; Microsoft reserves this right exclusively to themselves, and thereby do their users a tremendous disservice.

Re: Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss reports

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Post by vbezhenar »

sgwae wrote: post #70
throwaway080383 wrote: post #65

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Pretty sure they meant Linux.

It looks like desktop linux/ unknown browser is negligable in userbase. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_sys...

Why do you care? It works.

Re: Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss reports

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Post by m-p-3 »

SteveGerencser wrote: post #60
mehrdadn wrote: post #12

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I don't hope Microsoft dies, I just hope they realize how unreasonably stubborn they are being in forcefully shoving every new update of Windows down users' throats, and and that they then stop doing it.

We have 4 windows 10 machines here and a metered satellite internet connection for internet service. Didn't really think about it much until they pushed an update to all 4 machines the week after our monthly meter tripped on our service. Next thing I knew I was on throttled internet for 3 weeks. Setting all the machines so that they don't update turned out to not be too hard, but was FAR harder than it needed to be.…

Isn't there an option to distribute updates to computers on the same network to reduce WAN data usage?

Delivery Optimization: https://www.howtogeek.com/224981/how-to-stop-windows-10-from...

And there's ways to set the Ethernet connection as metered if you search a little bit online.

Re: Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss reports

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Post by vbezhenar »

r00fus wrote: post #38
Spearchucker wrote: post #26

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And thereby leaving millions of unpatched machines vulnerable. We just went through that with Android. No thanks. I think a more reasonable answer lies in Microsoft taking a better/different approach to Q/A.

I think iOS is better. I only get asked to bypass the OS update every month or so and it takes less than three seconds to bypass. They mover force an update but make you aware you're on an older version.

And if you need to restore device, you'll be updated no matter what.

Re: Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss reports

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Post by airstrike »

captainmuon wrote: post #3

Bizarre. I've seen something like this already in spring. A colleague lost all their documents, and calmly claimed it was probably "Windows Update". Apparently it is common knowledge in the office that Windows Update sometimes does that. I could never verify nor reproduce it, and chalked it up to "users say the darndest things". Files were simply restored from backup. Now I'm beginning to wonder if there was more to…

> That being said, I personally haven't had problems with Windows 10 except for the very first months.

I'm on the same boat yet somehow 8.1 still felt better...

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