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yes, maps are important. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Ramallah_lynching#Inciden...
I agree, try these: http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/mapstellstory.... My link is actually to maps. The amount of land lost by Palestine since 1947, and the tacit approval by the West is something we should be ashamed of.
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that's an interesting (albeit classically racist) proposition. so, Jews control the banks, the media, tech, politics... what do you think prevents "palestinean voices" from participating in those meritocratic endeavors? PS: how do I flag racist comments?
By clicking flag, which I did on your comment. `Whites control the banks, the media, tech, politics What do you think prevents “black voices” from participating in those meritocratic endeavors?” ` Are you implying that Palestinians are somehow inferior and therefore have less merit for representation? I’m black and I see white supremacy folks use that sort of logic all the time.
I 100% understand how you could have understood my comment the way you did. Will try to articulate things better in the future.
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What? How was this comment racist? I'm actually curious. Do you disagree that google has a strong jewish presence? I never said anything about them in banks, media, politics. All I did was search "google executive team" and looked through their wikipedia pages. > what do you think prevents "palestinean voices" from participating in those meritocratic endeavors? They're under a blockade by the Israelis, that'll do it.
one thing is to say: Google leadership is there thanks to their talents and accomplishments; many of them happen to be Jewish. other thing is what you said: > Google leadership, up and down, is filled with people who are of Jewish and Israeli heritage (or are married to them). What did you expect? Find me a Palestinian in any of their leadership team your version implies that they are at leadership positions _because…
I did not intend that implication and I'm not sure where you're deriving it from. I think you're looking too deep into my comment, it was just a statement about what I've read, I made no comment about why they're the leaders, just that they are.
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Do we simply ignore Israel's illegal occupation, and the oppression of the people of Palestine? I suppose that does provide better framing to pick out and criticise an individual act by the Palestinians.
At what point do we stop calling it an occupation, like it’s a temporary state of affairs, and call it what it is? None of us live in a land that was free from a history (some very recent) of violent conquest, and to be clear I know I’m taking a purely amoral stance here. I’m not saying that Israel is the “good guy” I’m just noting that they clearly won, and international fantasies aside, that’s done. So when is it j…
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I agree, try these: http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/mapstellstory.... My link is actually to maps. The amount of land lost by Palestine since 1947, and the tacit approval by the West is something we should be ashamed of.
There was no independent Palestine before, or after, 1947. So no “land loss”.
Google leadership, up and down, is filled with people who are of Jewish and Israeli heritage (or are married to them). What did you expect? Find me a Palestinian in any of their leadership team. I'm not suggesting they're intentionally doing this with google maps, but lacking a Palestinian voice, it's easy for Jewish and Israeli bias to take over.
Bias confirmed. According to Google Maps "Quick Facts": Poland is a place of Jewish heritage, and not much else... https://www.google.com/maps/place/Poland/
> In 2014, an estimated 87% of the population belonged to the Catholic Church
> Prior to Second World War there were 3,500,000 Jews in the Polish Second Republic, about 10% of the general population.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Poland
I have no idea where they got the claim that Poland is a place of Jewish heritage, what the hell google?
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Bias confirmed. According to Google Maps "Quick Facts": Poland is a place of Jewish heritage, and not much else... https://www.google.com/maps/place/Poland/
Wow, this is actually really bad. > In 2014, an estimated 87% of the population belonged to the Catholic Church > Prior to Second World War there were 3,500,000 Jews in the Polish Second Republic, about 10% of the general population. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Poland I have no idea where they got the claim that Poland is a place of Jewish heritage, what the hell google?
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What? How was this comment racist? I'm actually curious. Do you disagree that google has a strong jewish presence? I never said anything about them in banks, media, politics. All I did was search "google executive team" and looked through their wikipedia pages. > what do you think prevents "palestinean voices" from participating in those meritocratic endeavors? They're under a blockade by the Israelis, that'll do it.
one thing is to say: Google leadership is there thanks to their talents and accomplishments; many of them happen to be Jewish. other thing is what you said: > Google leadership, up and down, is filled with people who are of Jewish and Israeli heritage (or are married to them). What did you expect? Find me a Palestinian in any of their leadership team your version implies that they are at leadership positions _because…
>your version implies that they are at leadership positions _because_ they are Jewish
That's not at all how I read it. It was merely a statement of fact.
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Wow, this is actually really bad. > In 2014, an estimated 87% of the population belonged to the Catholic Church > Prior to Second World War there were 3,500,000 Jews in the Polish Second Republic, about 10% of the general population. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Poland I have no idea where they got the claim that Poland is a place of Jewish heritage, what the hell google?
maybe the intent was to say that Poland is a prominent place _for_ Jewish heritage, i.e. a large proportion of the Jewish people lived in Poland for ~1,000 years.
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Do we simply ignore Israel's illegal occupation, and the oppression of the people of Palestine? I suppose that does provide better framing to pick out and criticise an individual act by the Palestinians.
At what point do we stop calling it an occupation, like it’s a temporary state of affairs, and call it what it is? None of us live in a land that was free from a history (some very recent) of violent conquest, and to be clear I know I’m taking a purely amoral stance here. I’m not saying that Israel is the “good guy” I’m just noting that they clearly won, and international fantasies aside, that’s done. So when is it j…
The current fiction is that they are going to end up with some sort of two state solution, with the Palestinians getting their own country. If instead, this is really conquest, then we have the one-state solution option. But Palestinians have more babies than the Jewish Israelis do. So in a very short time period the Jews will be outnumbered by Arabs in "their own country."
I suspect the most likely outcome of this whole fiasco, is that Israel continues to build on whatever land they like the best, and if the Palestinians ever get their own country it will be on whatever land is left over. Perhaps all they will have left is Gaza, at the end of the day.
Basically, the Palestinians are fucked.