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Re: Windows 10’s latest update is deleting some users’ documents

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> Windows 10 has been the least disruptive Windows OS I've ever used. As someone who used to like Windows, you must be living in some alternate reality. I can't tall you the number of things that routinely break in Win10 and then cannot be fixed without an in-place upgrade. Do a search for "Windows 10 start menu doesn't work". That one has happened to me a number of times and none of the "helpful" suggestions from MS…

Have you had this problem on your computer before installing any other software? The problem with most common windows issues is they have absolutely nothing to do with Microsoft. When you have millions of compatible software packages that people install willy nilly, 'debloat' and 'super security' scripts that people seem to think are necessary to save 0 MB of RAM and 3 MB of hard drive space, and just a general popul…

Last time I ran into this problem it was immediately after an in-place upgrade from the Media Creation Utility, because the feature update failed and this was my only recourse. As I expected, nothing helped and I had to do a clean install.

I'm not a hardcore Windows tweaker, most of the applications I use at work are either portable[0], or made by Microsoft.

I don't believe I've tried the method outlined in that post, I'll keep it in mind for the inevitable next time that this occurs. Though it does force one to wonder WTF is wrong with Microsoft that they keep suggesting steps that don't work and then reinstallation, while some random internet has to provide the actual solution in the comments[1]. That seems to happen way too often.

[0] Because it's the right way to distribute and manage applications. Case in point: all I had to do was point a toolbar at my Portable Apps folder and as far as my workflow was concerned it was like nothing had ever happened.

[1] Somebody aught to start a charity that seeks out these heroes and buys them beer on behalf of all the people they've saved from pulling their hair out.

Re: Windows 10’s latest update is deleting some users’ documents

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Windows 7 and XP were not good, people see XP through nostalgia goggles and Windows 7 is just prettier XP. Windows 10 is easily my favorite of the three. I wish I understood windows better though. The issues I run into with unix machines always seem more fixable, because I find the solutions and approaches more intuitive. Windows remains a black box to me.

> Windows 7 is just prettier XP Windows 7 has a completely revamped driver model and network stack compared to XP. They aren't really that alike.

Sorry, I meant that they looked and felt quite similar to the user.

Re: Windows 10’s latest update is deleting some users’ documents

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How are they "not good"? You can still find XP machines in a lot of places, a 17 years old OS. And what's bad about Windows 7? My 2011 laptop is still running the original Windows 7 installation without any problems and I don't even remember the last time my Windows 7 desktop has crashed or caused me any trouble. Except when Windows Update decides to reboot by itself ... Mostly my only gripe is that Docker on Windows…

XP was a very hot mess back in the day. It grew to be a passable OS, but if you were around IT when it was new you know what a nightmare it was. I still have nightmares about taking calls about the blaster worm. The problems people have with windows 10 aren't even close in scope to the ones we had with XP.

That's true. IIRC XP wasn't really good until sometime after SP2 (which caused its own headaches).

Re: Windows 10’s latest update is deleting some users’ documents

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sadly onedrive has always been forced on users with windows 10.

How so? I have access several windows 10 machines and don't even use a Microsoft account on them.

I don't use a Windows account but it's still sitting there in the notification area.

Re: Windows 10’s latest update is deleting some users’ documents

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Microsoft has really gone too far with OTA and automatically reverting settings to more grandma friendly options. I have a windows pc which every month will have some setting reverted without me touching it. It can be anything and it usually takes some time to discover it because it only presents itself when you perform some rare task. My network sharing settings and external monitor scaling settings has been lost mu…

I know I'm going to sound like a microsoft employee or apologist, but I really have no skin in the game. I want windows to be better, but I think people are just going to far with minor gripes. Windows 10 has been the least disruptive Windows OS I've ever used. Maybe it's because I don't need to mess around with many settings, but I have had exactly 0 problems. On a clean install I used O&O Shutup 10, change my mouse…

Side note, thanks for mentioning O&O ShutUp 10 [1] this is the first time I've heard of it and it seems pretty great. You can turn off many of the telemetry and auto update 'features' and it even remembers what settings you chose and can re-apply them after an update that resets them. Honestly I'm ok with auto updates for the most part, but I'm trying to improve my privacy on devices that I use.

> O&O ShutUp10 is entirely free and does not have to be installed – it can be simply run directly and immediately on your PC. And it will not install or download retrospectively unwanted or unnecessary software

[1]: https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10

Re: Windows 10’s latest update is deleting some users’ documents

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Microsoft has really gone too far with OTA and automatically reverting settings to more grandma friendly options. I have a windows pc which every month will have some setting reverted without me touching it. It can be anything and it usually takes some time to discover it because it only presents itself when you perform some rare task. My network sharing settings and external monitor scaling settings has been lost mu…

Android used to do exactly the same modifying my settings during upgrades. I cant believe we are living in an era when software vendors just fuck with users left and right.

Re: Windows 10’s latest update is deleting some users’ documents

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Have you seen elementary OS? Very clearly macOS inspired and they've done a great job with it. Worth a look for anyone who hates half-assed and inconsistent UIs. I'm not a regular user (just toyed with it in some VMs) so I can't vouch for how the updates do, but I was impressed with the overall level of polish. It's an Ubuntu-derivative based on LTS releases so it lags a ways behind the cutting edge. EDIT: looks like…

Elementary is good in terms of looks on the face, but starts to break down as soon as you dig deeper. Inconsistent updates and strange issues requiring manual intervention via the terminal are still there.

I do remember some UI inconsistency showing up as soon as you want any software that wasn't written specifically for elementary (like VS Code), but that's inevitable since it's basically rolling its own UI no matter what OS you're on.

Not recalling much repeated terminal intervention, though there were a few safety nets that I immediately turned off the moment I had it installed (I think related to package manager installations?)

Dropbox did not work well.

Re: Windows 10’s latest update is deleting some users’ documents

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I hope it has something to do with DRM enforcement.

If DRM ever gets to the point where it starts arbitrarily deleting data from my hard drive that will be the last time I ever touch software written by anyone involved.

Why wait until it happens? In fact, it's already happened on Kindle.

Re: Windows 10’s latest update is deleting some users’ documents

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Windows 7 and XP were not good, people see XP through nostalgia goggles and Windows 7 is just prettier XP. Windows 10 is easily my favorite of the three. I wish I understood windows better though. The issues I run into with unix machines always seem more fixable, because I find the solutions and approaches more intuitive. Windows remains a black box to me.

How are they "not good"? You can still find XP machines in a lot of places, a 17 years old OS. And what's bad about Windows 7? My 2011 laptop is still running the original Windows 7 installation without any problems and I don't even remember the last time my Windows 7 desktop has crashed or caused me any trouble. Except when Windows Update decides to reboot by itself ... Mostly my only gripe is that Docker on Windows…

You can still find Windows 3.11 in some places. Longevity is not necessarily linked to quality
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