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Re: Windows 10’s latest update is deleting some users’ documents

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Post by AnIdiotOnTheNet »

ashleyn wrote: post #13
paulpauper wrote: post #9

windows 7..the last good Windows OS.

Compared to Linux the amount of bloat shipping with Windows 10 is simply unreal. Open up Task Manager on a fresh install and the only two questions I can ask are "What the fuck do half of these services actually do ?" and "Why is Windows Defender ALWAYS running up the CPU?" The start menu is loaded with trash like Candy Crush, which I can only guess is a revenue stream at the expense of user experience. You can't rid…

> Compared to Linux the amount of bloat shipping with Windows 10 is simply unreal. Open up Task Manager on a fresh install and the only two questions I can ask are "What the fuck do half of these services actually do?"

I invite you to list the processes running on a fresh install of a modern Linux Desktop distribution for comparison. There's plenty of bloat to go around.

Re: Windows 10’s latest update is deleting some users’ documents

#43

Post by ragequitta »

AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #34
ragequitta wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know I'm going to sound like a microsoft employee or apologist, but I really have no skin in the game. I want windows to be better, but I think people are just going to far with minor gripes. Windows 10 has been the least disruptive Windows OS I've ever used. Maybe it's because I don't need to mess around with many settings, but I have had exactly 0 problems. On a clean install I used O&O Shutup 10, change my mouse…

> Windows 10 has been the least disruptive Windows OS I've ever used. As someone who used to like Windows, you must be living in some alternate reality. I can't tall you the number of things that routinely break in Win10 and then cannot be fixed without an in-place upgrade. Do a search for "Windows 10 start menu doesn't work". That one has happened to me a number of times and none of the "helpful" suggestions from MS…

Have you had this problem on your computer before installing any other software? The problem with most common windows issues is they have absolutely nothing to do with Microsoft. When you have millions of compatible software packages that people install willy nilly, 'debloat' and 'super security' scripts that people seem to think are necessary to save 0 MB of RAM and 3 MB of hard drive space, and just a general population of people who like to 'HARDCORE TWEAK' their OS it's impossible to not run into millions of issues.

As for the problem you've been experiencing maybe this will work?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/7olecs/start_men...

Re: Windows 10’s latest update is deleting some users’ documents

#44

Post by conradfr »

fhood wrote: post #25
ragequitta wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know I'm going to sound like a microsoft employee or apologist, but I really have no skin in the game. I want windows to be better, but I think people are just going to far with minor gripes. Windows 10 has been the least disruptive Windows OS I've ever used. Maybe it's because I don't need to mess around with many settings, but I have had exactly 0 problems. On a clean install I used O&O Shutup 10, change my mouse…

Windows 7 and XP were not good, people see XP through nostalgia goggles and Windows 7 is just prettier XP. Windows 10 is easily my favorite of the three. I wish I understood windows better though. The issues I run into with unix machines always seem more fixable, because I find the solutions and approaches more intuitive. Windows remains a black box to me.

How are they "not good"?

You can still find XP machines in a lot of places, a 17 years old OS.

And what's bad about Windows 7? My 2011 laptop is still running the original Windows 7 installation without any problems and I don't even remember the last time my Windows 7 desktop has crashed or caused me any trouble. Except when Windows Update decides to reboot by itself ...

Mostly my only gripe is that Docker on Windows 7 is legacy.

Re: Windows 10’s latest update is deleting some users’ documents

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Post by therein »

Zhyl wrote: post #37
AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I should have mentioned that it's also occasionally a casual gaming machine. The emulators are all through RetroArch these days, so that migration would be seamless. It's the Steam games that would be the sticking point. I know I could probably get most of them running under WINE, but it's the guaranteed compatibility of a 20-year gaming library that makes it difficult to fully close the door on Windows.

Have you tried the new Steam Play (Proton)? In short, steam will now automatically wrap all windows games up with Wine and DXVK. Many many games are now working out of the box without any faff.

Yeah, it is actually pretty impressive how well it works and how performant it is. What is upsetting me is that the unsupported games are not unsupported because of the game itself but because of the anti-cheat systems they use not supporting Linux.

Re: Windows 10’s latest update is deleting some users’ documents

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Post by ragequitta »

AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #34
ragequitta wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know I'm going to sound like a microsoft employee or apologist, but I really have no skin in the game. I want windows to be better, but I think people are just going to far with minor gripes. Windows 10 has been the least disruptive Windows OS I've ever used. Maybe it's because I don't need to mess around with many settings, but I have had exactly 0 problems. On a clean install I used O&O Shutup 10, change my mouse…

> Windows 10 has been the least disruptive Windows OS I've ever used. As someone who used to like Windows, you must be living in some alternate reality. I can't tall you the number of things that routinely break in Win10 and then cannot be fixed without an in-place upgrade. Do a search for "Windows 10 start menu doesn't work". That one has happened to me a number of times and none of the "helpful" suggestions from MS…

In the spirit of "I bet I can find your problem in any windows OS"

Windows 7: http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2008331/windows-start...

Windows XP: http://www.instant-registry-fixes.org/fix-windows-xp-start-m...

Re: Windows 10’s latest update is deleting some users’ documents

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Post by therein »

AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #41
ashleyn wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Compared to Linux the amount of bloat shipping with Windows 10 is simply unreal. Open up Task Manager on a fresh install and the only two questions I can ask are "What the fuck do half of these services actually do ?" and "Why is Windows Defender ALWAYS running up the CPU?" The start menu is loaded with trash like Candy Crush, which I can only guess is a revenue stream at the expense of user experience. You can't rid…

> Compared to Linux the amount of bloat shipping with Windows 10 is simply unreal. Open up Task Manager on a fresh install and the only two questions I can ask are "What the fuck do half of these services actually do?" I invite you to list the processes running on a fresh install of a modern Linux Desktop distribution for comparison. There's plenty of bloat to go around.

It isn't too bad. You got your oomkiller, maybe a kworker.

Re: Windows 10’s latest update is deleting some users’ documents

#48

Post by ragequitta »

conradfr wrote: post #44
fhood wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Windows 7 and XP were not good, people see XP through nostalgia goggles and Windows 7 is just prettier XP. Windows 10 is easily my favorite of the three. I wish I understood windows better though. The issues I run into with unix machines always seem more fixable, because I find the solutions and approaches more intuitive. Windows remains a black box to me.

How are they "not good"? You can still find XP machines in a lot of places, a 17 years old OS. And what's bad about Windows 7? My 2011 laptop is still running the original Windows 7 installation without any problems and I don't even remember the last time my Windows 7 desktop has crashed or caused me any trouble. Except when Windows Update decides to reboot by itself ... Mostly my only gripe is that Docker on Windows…

XP was a very hot mess back in the day. It grew to be a passable OS, but if you were around IT when it was new you know what a nightmare it was. I still have nightmares about taking calls about the blaster worm. The problems people have with windows 10 aren't even close in scope to the ones we had with XP.

Re: Windows 10’s latest update is deleting some users’ documents

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Post by therein »

gassed wrote: post #21
benjaminjackman wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'll stick with being forced to use it for games only. Steam just got an upgrade that automagically runs a lot of games via a modified version of wine (called proton) sometimes even with better performance than on Windows. It's worked very well for everything I have tried it with so far. So that just leaves games not available in Steam. The biggest of which has to be Blizzard, however a lot of their games already w…

Proton is open source, isn't it? I'm sure you can convince it to run a Blizzard game. Not sure about the results though. D3D9 WoW works very, very well under wine-d3d9[0], but D3D9 support was dropped from WoW a long time ago. Can't say anything about the rest of Blizzard games. [0] https://packages.gentoo.org/packages/app-emulation/wine-d3d9

As I mentioned on somewhere else on this thread, the problem with Blizzard games and other multiplayer games you may want to play on Linux under Proton/Wine/whatever will fail to join the actual online games because anti-cheat like Battleye don't support Linux because Battleye on Windows loads a kernel module.

Re: Windows 10’s latest update is deleting some users’ documents

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Post by wlll »

ragequitta wrote: post #22
Too wrote: post #11

Microsoft has really gone too far with OTA and automatically reverting settings to more grandma friendly options. I have a windows pc which every month will have some setting reverted without me touching it. It can be anything and it usually takes some time to discover it because it only presents itself when you perform some rare task. My network sharing settings and external monitor scaling settings has been lost mu…

I know I'm going to sound like a microsoft employee or apologist, but I really have no skin in the game. I want windows to be better, but I think people are just going to far with minor gripes. Windows 10 has been the least disruptive Windows OS I've ever used. Maybe it's because I don't need to mess around with many settings, but I have had exactly 0 problems. On a clean install I used O&O Shutup 10, change my mouse…

> minor gripes.

This last update deleted people's data. Permanently.

I have a windows 10 machine (for games), I installed it myself so it's got no pre-loaded shit, and yet it still bothers me about stuff. Onedrive, cortana, etc. etc. The UI is shitty like someone in MS has gone ERMAHGERD TERBLERTS and dumped a load of swipy touch screen UI into it, UI that is just frustrating on a normal regular computer.

Also, I shouldn't have to fix the OS right after install. As far as I remember the only customisation I did to my mac was to switch back to the non-wierd scrolling direction. Maybe that and turning on dock hiding.

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