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Netflix Is Forcing Hollywood into a Talent War

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Re: Netflix Is Forcing Hollywood into a Talent War

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I wish Netflix would force HBO Go and Amazon Prime Video into an UX war. It drives me crazy how bad the player and the general experience are on these 2 services. You can’t even pause with the space bar on HBO.

IMO, Hulu is by far the worst of the major streaming services. From a design perspective it looks good, but the UX seems to be designed take you to the next episode of the last thing you watched and that's it. If you want to watch a different show, or an episode out of order, or even just want to browse, you're fighting an uphill battle against their "FULL SCREEN EVERYTHING!" design.

Re: Netflix Is Forcing Hollywood into a Talent War

#83

I wish Netflix would force HBO Go and Amazon Prime Video into an UX war. It drives me crazy how bad the player and the general experience are on these 2 services. You can’t even pause with the space bar on HBO.

I could not disagree more. Prime Video is by far the best user experience for me, and Netflix is by far the worst. I can't stand how Netflix displays related results when they don't actually have a particular result in stock. I cannot stand the auto-start feature where if you're browsing and idle too long on one item, it will start playing a trailer or synopsis. The sideways scroll under different heading is horrible…

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Re: Netflix Is Forcing Hollywood into a Talent War

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I could not disagree more. Prime Video is by far the best user experience for me, and Netflix is by far the worst. I can't stand how Netflix displays related results when they don't actually have a particular result in stock. I cannot stand the auto-start feature where if you're browsing and idle too long on one item, it will start playing a trailer or synopsis. The sideways scroll under different heading is horrible…

Ok. Maybe GP should have said UI instead of UX, but still, the spacebar to pause is a bigger deal for me that everything you mention. It's like not having the light in your fridge go on when you open the door. It's not important for the actual purpose of the thing but it is something one has come to expect.

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Re: Netflix Is Forcing Hollywood into a Talent War

#85

I wish Netflix would force HBO Go and Amazon Prime Video into an UX war. It drives me crazy how bad the player and the general experience are on these 2 services. You can’t even pause with the space bar on HBO.

Amazon Prime on Apple TV tends to crash a lot. Maybe less often now than it did at first. Netflix has been pretty stable in my experience.

Re: Netflix Is Forcing Hollywood into a Talent War

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It's a great action flick to go see if you are bored on a Saturday night. It's a horrible Star Wars film.

But "a great action flick to go see if you are bored on a Saturday night" is what a Star Wars film is supposed to be. The franchise has never aspired to be anything else. And I'd rather they at least take some risks than continue to regurgitate the OT. If you ignore all of the nonsense from redpillers about SJWs and Kathleen Kennedy turning it into anti-male propaganda, I feel like many of the the remaining criticism…

I agree, we should ignore the gender politics of this movie and it's detractors and that whole argument entirely. That has nothing to do with whether the movie is any good.

> But "a great action flick to go see if you are bored on a Saturday night" is what a Star Wars film is supposed to be.

Yes, but it's also supposed to be a continuing story. It's a serialized, epic, swashbuckling space opera. While TLJ is still a space opera, it doesn't follow the same tone and the story doesn't follow the same beats.

It's fine if you want to tell a story like TLJ about disillusionment and being disappointed with your heroes and discovering that the real world isn't about one ship destroying the Death Star. But taking that story and putting it in the Star Wars universe as a main entry in the series doesn't work. That's not what people want to see in a Star Wars movie. People go to a Star Wars movie to see the hero destroy the Death Star! You can't take any story with any characters and any plot elements and place it in the Star War Universe and magically have a Star Wars movie. It's the same reason you can't just have a movie with a Deloran and time travel and make a Back to the Future movie. It's the same reason the Ghostbusters remake was bad. It's the same reason the Mad Max remake was good. It's the same reason Infinity War was good. It's the same reason Batman v Superman was bad. You have to have some respect for the tone, themes, and plots of what came before. TLJ disrespects it's audience's desires by disrespecting the draw of the source material.

Re: Netflix Is Forcing Hollywood into a Talent War

#87

I wish Netflix would force HBO Go and Amazon Prime Video into an UX war. It drives me crazy how bad the player and the general experience are on these 2 services. You can’t even pause with the space bar on HBO.

I wish Netflix had the equivalent of Prime's x-ray.

I'm also very surprised that X-ray does not hi-lite items on the screen that you could click to buy on Amazon (I assume someone is working on this), not saying I want it, just surprised the feature doesn't exist.

Re: Netflix Is Forcing Hollywood into a Talent War

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Ok. Maybe GP should have said UI instead of UX, but still, the spacebar to pause is a bigger deal for me that everything you mention. It's like not having the light in your fridge go on when you open the door. It's not important for the actual purpose of the thing but it is something one has come to expect.

I literally don't know anyone who watches Netflix on a device with a space bar. I mean, I get it. For you that is important. I couldn't care less, and would never watch any of these things on a laptop. I usually watch them via devices that are connected to a regular TV. Otherwise, very occasionally on a tablet or phone.

I've had a Netflix account since the shiny-disc era and I've never watched it on anything but a device with a space bar... a laptop is the device I connect to a regular TV.

Re: Netflix Is Forcing Hollywood into a Talent War

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It's hard to forgive throwing out all the well-explored material in the old Expanded Universe for... this mess.

Why would Disney purchase Star Wars only to shackle themselves and filmmakers to decades of convoluted lore, not to mention rights negotiations and royalty payments, to rehash stories that have already been told, and tell them to an audience who, for the most part, couldn't care less?

You mean, copy exactly what the same company did with Marvell, the most successful and profitable film franchise in history? You didn't think that those movie plots were original did you? Infinity Gauntlet is from the 70s.

Re: Netflix Is Forcing Hollywood into a Talent War

#90

I wish Netflix would force HBO Go and Amazon Prime Video into an UX war. It drives me crazy how bad the player and the general experience are on these 2 services. You can’t even pause with the space bar on HBO.

I could not disagree more. Prime Video is by far the best user experience for me, and Netflix is by far the worst. I can't stand how Netflix displays related results when they don't actually have a particular result in stock. I cannot stand the auto-start feature where if you're browsing and idle too long on one item, it will start playing a trailer or synopsis. The sideways scroll under different heading is horrible…

For my uses, the actual Netflix player is by far better than Prime Video. I watch a lot of anime and foreign films. Prime Video seems to equate subtitles with closed-captions, and the font is harder to read. Netflix has the skip intro/credits buttons as a bonus.

As far as the interfaces for selecting what to watch, in my opinion they are equally bad. I no longer use them to discover content. Instead I find something I want to watch elsewhere and search for it directly.

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