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Re: Windows 10’s latest update is deleting some users’ documents

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Post by gassed »

benjaminjackman wrote: post #16
ashleyn wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Compared to Linux the amount of bloat shipping with Windows 10 is simply unreal. Open up Task Manager on a fresh install and the only two questions I can ask are "What the fuck do half of these services actually do ?" and "Why is Windows Defender ALWAYS running up the CPU?" The start menu is loaded with trash like Candy Crush, which I can only guess is a revenue stream at the expense of user experience. You can't rid…

> I'll stick with being forced to use it for games only. Steam just got an upgrade that automagically runs a lot of games via a modified version of wine (called proton) sometimes even with better performance than on Windows. It's worked very well for everything I have tried it with so far. So that just leaves games not available in Steam. The biggest of which has to be Blizzard, however a lot of their games already w…

Proton is open source, isn't it? I'm sure you can convince it to run a Blizzard game. Not sure about the results though. D3D9 WoW works very, very well under wine-d3d9[0], but D3D9 support was dropped from WoW a long time ago.

Can't say anything about the rest of Blizzard games.

[0] https://packages.gentoo.org/packages/app-emulation/wine-d3d9

Re: Windows 10’s latest update is deleting some users’ documents

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Post by ragequitta »

Too wrote: post #11

Microsoft has really gone too far with OTA and automatically reverting settings to more grandma friendly options. I have a windows pc which every month will have some setting reverted without me touching it. It can be anything and it usually takes some time to discover it because it only presents itself when you perform some rare task. My network sharing settings and external monitor scaling settings has been lost mu…

I know I'm going to sound like a microsoft employee or apologist, but I really have no skin in the game. I want windows to be better, but I think people are just going to far with minor gripes. Windows 10 has been the least disruptive Windows OS I've ever used. Maybe it's because I don't need to mess around with many settings, but I have had exactly 0 problems. On a clean install I used O&O Shutup 10, change my mouse settings, delete the 6-10 icons in the start menu that I don't want, and I've pretty much been good since beta (using O&O and making sure my drivers are good after every major update). I think the biggest disruption I remember was when they changed the audio settings completely, but that change was necessary (windows audio settings sucked) and is actually a pretty good change.

And I think people are not remembering just how many problems there were with windows 7/XP. Like the EXACT same problems people are complaining about now. Name a problem you're experiencing I can find a forum thread about someone having it on almost any version of Windows OS. And quite often many distros of linux as well.

Re: Windows 10’s latest update is deleting some users’ documents

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Post by jamesgeck0 »

benjaminjackman wrote: post #16
ashleyn wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Compared to Linux the amount of bloat shipping with Windows 10 is simply unreal. Open up Task Manager on a fresh install and the only two questions I can ask are "What the fuck do half of these services actually do ?" and "Why is Windows Defender ALWAYS running up the CPU?" The start menu is loaded with trash like Candy Crush, which I can only guess is a revenue stream at the expense of user experience. You can't rid…

> I'll stick with being forced to use it for games only. Steam just got an upgrade that automagically runs a lot of games via a modified version of wine (called proton) sometimes even with better performance than on Windows. It's worked very well for everything I have tried it with so far. So that just leaves games not available in Steam. The biggest of which has to be Blizzard, however a lot of their games already w…

> As of today most games may actually already run better on Linux than on Windows.

I think that may be overselling it quite a bit. Every time I've checked to see how a game I'm currently playing would run, there are always caveats. Like random crashes in Rise of the Tomb Raider and Monster Hunter World.

Re: Windows 10’s latest update is deleting some users’ documents

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Post by bitL »

Even the very first Windows 10 version was deleting files on hard drive, if they were false positives of Windows Defender. I remember fighting it for a few hours once when I needed to run some (safe) utility (I compiled), but which was disappearing within seconds after Windows Defender ran scan on it. IIRC it was very difficult to find settings where you could completely disable Windows Defender.

Re: Windows 10’s latest update is deleting some users’ documents

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Post by fhood »

ragequitta wrote: post #22
Too wrote: post #11

Microsoft has really gone too far with OTA and automatically reverting settings to more grandma friendly options. I have a windows pc which every month will have some setting reverted without me touching it. It can be anything and it usually takes some time to discover it because it only presents itself when you perform some rare task. My network sharing settings and external monitor scaling settings has been lost mu…

I know I'm going to sound like a microsoft employee or apologist, but I really have no skin in the game. I want windows to be better, but I think people are just going to far with minor gripes. Windows 10 has been the least disruptive Windows OS I've ever used. Maybe it's because I don't need to mess around with many settings, but I have had exactly 0 problems. On a clean install I used O&O Shutup 10, change my mouse…

Windows 7 and XP were not good, people see XP through nostalgia goggles and Windows 7 is just prettier XP. Windows 10 is easily my favorite of the three.

I wish I understood windows better though. The issues I run into with unix machines always seem more fixable, because I find the solutions and approaches more intuitive. Windows remains a black box to me.

Re: Windows 10’s latest update is deleting some users’ documents

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Post by anticensor »

RobertSmith wrote: post #20
Too wrote: post #11

Microsoft has really gone too far with OTA and automatically reverting settings to more grandma friendly options. I have a windows pc which every month will have some setting reverted without me touching it. It can be anything and it usually takes some time to discover it because it only presents itself when you perform some rare task. My network sharing settings and external monitor scaling settings has been lost mu…

Yep. Microsoft's playground has always been our computers and servers.

They forgot to turn the flag down while it is exiting Microsoft Ring.

Re: Windows 10’s latest update is deleting some users’ documents

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Post by jakobdabo »

Too wrote: post #11

Microsoft has really gone too far with OTA and automatically reverting settings to more grandma friendly options. I have a windows pc which every month will have some setting reverted without me touching it. It can be anything and it usually takes some time to discover it because it only presents itself when you perform some rare task. My network sharing settings and external monitor scaling settings has been lost mu…

> They treat it as the front page of Facebook.

For me, the last several years my designated Windows machine is just a firmware for running single-player triple-A games in the weekends, and always offline.

Re: Windows 10’s latest update is deleting some users’ documents

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Post by AnIdiotOnTheNet »

As a vocal critic of the Linux Desktop, even I feel that soon Microsoft will have succeeded in making Windows so horrifically awful and user-hostile that the Linux Desktop will start to look good by comparison. I mean, if I'm going to put up with rapid update cycles that break things for no reason, decade old bugs going unfixed while features are added that no one asked for, inconsistent and redundant interfaces, developers who ignore user feedback and fetishize complexity, and fragile systems designed by Rube Goldberg, I may as well be using a Linux Desktop. About the only things holding me back any more are my unmitigated hatred for package managers as an application distribution model and crappy graphics drivers, otherwise Windows has achieved rough parity on bad system design.

For now, I'm staying sane on Win 10 by completely disabling all update functionality. I suspect that something will eventually make that untenable though. I've suspected for some time that it has been Microsoft's goal to kill off desktop computing, and they seem to be succeeding handily.

Re: Windows 10’s latest update is deleting some users’ documents

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Post by supernovae »

I use windows on many systems and have no such problems. What was introduced into the latest update is what is added into storage sense - if you enable storage sense integration into OneDrive then when you are low on disk space, documents are MOVED to one drive (offline). You DO have to opt into this.

Other people who have this problem with missing docs apparently have done registry hacks and sub mounted volumes to fake onedrive access to USB devices or to move things around in ways that were never supported - OneDrive has always attempted to block/disable such hacks but people are creative... i have 0 sympathies for those users - but again - their docs are probably still on the umounted volume they could re-mount (assign a drive letter) or they're fully migrated to OneDrive.

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