UK cyber security agency backs Apple, Amazon China hack denials

Post by atmosx » Fri, Oct 05, 2018, 4:19 PM UTC

adventured wrote: post #29

tptacek wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're not "maintaining ignorance"; they're categorically denying it, and in significant detail. Both Apple and Amazon produced essentially bulleted refutations of the story. That's not what you do when you're trying to brush something off.

At this point it's clearly down to Bloomberg / Businessweek to bring more evidence to the table, and support their story further. The other side has entirely put the ball back in Bloomberg's court. Their credibility will be severely thrashed by this if they don't.

Post by hrktb » Fri, Oct 05, 2018, 4:25 PM UTC

kryogen1c wrote: post #12

beaker52 wrote: post #7

It could also be possible that these companies are legally bound by some sort of investigation-related order to maintain ignorance to the presence of the chips and that Bloomberg have just sunk an ongoing investigation/counter-espionage operation, potentially putting an associated intelligence network at risk.

This seems the most likely scenario to me. The official response definitely does not pass the smell test, and this is the simplest way 5 eyes has to benefit from lying.

Post by howard941 » Fri, Oct 05, 2018, 4:48 PM UTC

Post by SyneRyder » Fri, Oct 05, 2018, 4:52 PM UTC

JdeBP wrote: post #17

sorokod wrote: post #10

“We are aware of the media reports but at this stage have no reason to doubt the detailed assessments made by AWS and Apple,” This is a pretty mild statement, would not say it backs Apple and Amazon.

Yes, it's not really backing them any more than the equally non-committal statement from the Norwegian National Security Authority is. The Reuters headline is not borne out by its article. * https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18146242

Post by akerro » Fri, Oct 05, 2018, 4:59 PM UTC