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Before today, was this version of MIT Logo for the Apple II EVER released? I'm asking because of reaperducer's comment from just a week ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18086566
Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you don't mind me asking, did the book do any explaining of why the magic computer words were in a foreign language (English)? Had you been exposed to much English already when you picked up the book? As a native English speaker I feel fairly ignorant of how programming is taught in other (human) languages. I recall a quote [1] by Eric S. Raymond commenting (or perhaps speculating?) that Linus commented his kernel…
I always wondered how non-english speaking developers from other countries who were first adopters of HTTP (or any new tech) reacted to words like "GET" and "Content-Type" and other things that were clearly invented by westerners. What would we think if we had to implement something new and use words we didn't understand?
Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you don't mind me asking, did the book do any explaining of why the magic computer words were in a foreign language (English)? Had you been exposed to much English already when you picked up the book? As a native English speaker I feel fairly ignorant of how programming is taught in other (human) languages. I recall a quote [1] by Eric S. Raymond commenting (or perhaps speculating?) that Linus commented his kernel…
I always wondered how non-english speaking developers from other countries who were first adopters of HTTP (or any new tech) reacted to words like "GET" and "Content-Type" and other things that were clearly invented by westerners. What would we think if we had to implement something new and use words we didn't understand?
I remember my very first program, from the book "Programmeren voor kinderen" ("Programming for kids" in Dutch) repeat 4 forward 100 right 90 It drew a square on the screen and my mind was blown. I haven't recovered yet :)
If you don't mind me asking, did the book do any explaining of why the magic computer words were in a foreign language (English)? Had you been exposed to much English already when you picked up the book? As a native English speaker I feel fairly ignorant of how programming is taught in other (human) languages. I recall a quote [1] by Eric S. Raymond commenting (or perhaps speculating?) that Linus commented his kernel…
APOUT: AND #$7F ;eat Apple idiot char codes, type Ascii
JMP COUT
I remember my very first program, from the book "Programmeren voor kinderen" ("Programming for kids" in Dutch) repeat 4 forward 100 right 90 It drew a square on the screen and my mind was blown. I haven't recovered yet :)
If you don't mind me asking, did the book do any explaining of why the magic computer words were in a foreign language (English)? Had you been exposed to much English already when you picked up the book? As a native English speaker I feel fairly ignorant of how programming is taught in other (human) languages. I recall a quote [1] by Eric S. Raymond commenting (or perhaps speculating?) that Linus commented his kernel…
So when learning programming it did not strike me as 'weird' that the language was English.
Nowadays, because of online gaming, it is probably even less of a problem for kids.
I remember my very first program, from the book "Programmeren voor kinderen" ("Programming for kids" in Dutch) repeat 4 forward 100 right 90 It drew a square on the screen and my mind was blown. I haven't recovered yet :)
If you don't mind me asking, did the book do any explaining of why the magic computer words were in a foreign language (English)? Had you been exposed to much English already when you picked up the book? As a native English speaker I feel fairly ignorant of how programming is taught in other (human) languages. I recall a quote [1] by Eric S. Raymond commenting (or perhaps speculating?) that Linus commented his kernel…
It was the same for me. I started learning in VB.net and then Java/Python. The English syntax never bothered me because I started learning English when I was 7 years old.
Trying to code in another language would just be a nightmare. So it makes sense to keep the syntax in one language (English in this case) for consistency.
I wonder what they mean by this: APOUT: AND #$7F ;eat Apple idiot char codes, type Ascii JMP COUT did the Apple II not use ASCII?
They don't like Apple's "idiot" character encoding (which is custom, Apple II specific), so they throw away the top bit with the AND leaving only ASCII characters.
I wonder what they mean by this: APOUT: AND #$7F ;eat Apple idiot char codes, type Ascii JMP COUT did the Apple II not use ASCII?
Apple II did use ASCII. But ASCII defines 128 code-points. The other 128 code-points are specific to the character encoding or "codepage". They don't like Apple's "idiot" character encoding (which is custom, Apple II specific), so they throw away the top bit with the AND leaving only ASCII characters.
ASCII is a character encoding, and it's a 7-bit encoding. It has no code pages.
There are many 8-bit encodings / code pages that are ASCII supersets (including the Apple II one), however.