While ive only been a dev for a bit over a year at my current company we use JIRA and its been pretty easy to understand and work with. Issue comes in a tester and dev is assigned work is tracked through the issues ID and you just move the status through its lifecycle (progres, review, testing, done). Maybe theirs more cumbersome workflows at other companies but mine seems to keep it straightforward.
GitHub and Jira Software Integration
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Re: GitHub and Jira Software Integration
#52I don't understand the negativity in this thread. Or why people are using this post as an impetus to (ostensibly) move to gitlab. Or lament the decline and fall of github. Nobody is forcing anyone to use Jira. Nobody is forcing anyone to use Github. You can continue to use both without adopting any of the UX or design or workflows or whatever of the other. This blog post is just saying "now we have an officially-supp…
It's because many of us have worked at companies that use JIRA extensively. It's a tool that marks the sign that a company cares more about the management of staff as units, instead of caring about employees as breathing and creative forces. It makes management's job easier, but it does nothing for the managed, except lead to frustration and hundreds of emails that have to be waded through for that 5% chance of relev…
I work in a shop that had effectively no project management. When jira was introduced it was a godsend. Obviously email and slack requests aren't better, so what is the alternative system that has people hating on jira?
Honest question.
Re: GitHub and Jira Software Integration
#53I see a lot of people complaining about JIRA in this thread, so here's my take: - I've used Trello, GitHub Projects/Issues, and other Project Management software; - While JIRA has a steep learning curve and is generally unpleasant to use, it is far and away the most customizable and powerful PM software I have used; - Despite JIRA's poor design choices and UX clunkiness, it is so powerful that I wouldn't use anything…
> "it is far and away the most customizable and powerful PM software I have used" Opinionated software is good. Unlimited customizability is bad and the source of almost all of Jira's problems.
Not really. Opinionated software is good when the opinion is something you agree with. When you need the opinionated software to something it wasn't designed for it's frequently really bad.
CMake is opinionated. It's built assuming that the build yields an executable file for Windows, Linux or Mac. Try getting CMake to cross-compile for more than one platform at the same time, or build not than one executable and then build a root filesystem into a system image. This is impossible without circumventing CMake entirely. It's actually pretty easy in Make, which is what CMake generates.
There are tons of organizations which need to manage their projects in a way Trello or Pivotal aren't designed for. These tools require you to adopt a methodology and they work great as long as you do. But if you need to do something strange like integrate with a separate system test team, good luck. That's really why organizations adopt JIRA. They want to do things that the tool designers thought you should never do. And those things are necessary in the eyes of those organizations.
Being opinionated is great if you're a human, but the best software is built by people who are trying to help me do my job, not by people who want to dictate how it should be done from the perspective of not being my employer.
Re: GitHub and Jira Software Integration
#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
to be fair, I've never seen a good bug tracking tool
Taiga and GitlabIssues are not too bad. Bugzilla was good 5-10 years ago, now I see it as too complex (and it's written in Perl...).
It was written in Perl when it was fashionable to write in Perl
And it probably has fewer dependencies than a node.js hello world app
Re: GitHub and Jira Software Integration
#55I see a lot of people complaining about JIRA in this thread, so here's my take: - I've used Trello, GitHub Projects/Issues, and other Project Management software; - While JIRA has a steep learning curve and is generally unpleasant to use, it is far and away the most customizable and powerful PM software I have used; - Despite JIRA's poor design choices and UX clunkiness, it is so powerful that I wouldn't use anything…
> "it is far and away the most customizable and powerful PM software I have used" Opinionated software is good. Unlimited customizability is bad and the source of almost all of Jira's problems.
Probably the source of almost all of their sales too.
Re: GitHub and Jira Software Integration
#56My office usees Jira. I like it.
I feel that a lot of the sentiment against Jira is a result of bad management - Jira is a tool. It can be used by good managers, and it can be used by bad managers.
Re: GitHub and Jira Software Integration
#57Re: GitHub and Jira Software Integration
#58I know that my experience is by definition limited but across multiple companies & industries the use of JIRA has been uniformly an anti/pattern. GitHub issues on the other hand have never been a negative. The only reason I bring this up is that I think this is an unmitigated bad feature. The only pushback I have at times in an org is the moat between JIRA & Github
Yeah I've had nothing but a bad time with Jira, it's slow / high latency and high impact to use - combining that with GitHubs poor UX and I guess they're made for each other :/
While I agree that Jira is slow and generally a total pain to use (I can almost hear the JVM roaring 8000km away), I think Github is the contrary: fast with very good UX.
Re: GitHub and Jira Software Integration
#59I don't understand the negativity in this thread. Or why people are using this post as an impetus to (ostensibly) move to gitlab. Or lament the decline and fall of github. Nobody is forcing anyone to use Jira. Nobody is forcing anyone to use Github. You can continue to use both without adopting any of the UX or design or workflows or whatever of the other. This blog post is just saying "now we have an officially-supp…
It's because many of us have worked at companies that use JIRA extensively. It's a tool that marks the sign that a company cares more about the management of staff as units, instead of caring about employees as breathing and creative forces. It makes management's job easier, but it does nothing for the managed, except lead to frustration and hundreds of emails that have to be waded through for that 5% chance of relev…
What are some alternatives you (or others) would suggest to Jira?
I don't mean that to come across snarky at all; I'm honestly curious what people are using and enjoy.
Re: GitHub and Jira Software Integration
#60Can someone explain all the Jira hate to me? Yeah it's an ugly UI. But once you are used to how it works, doesn't it do the job fine? I don't spend that much time in task management software, just need to look up my tasks...
The hate for it is from the large amount of customization that is done to workflows at large organizations, many times in the name of "compliance" or "security". Instead of just moving stories between lanes (To Do, In progress, Testing, Done or whatever), you're filling out multiple forms, clicking a bunch of checkboxes, adding links to test results, build results, PRs, etc, all for someone you'll never know to run a…
Yeah that and it's interface feeling so incredibly slow / high latency (on prem and cloud / hosted), it /feels/ like Java.