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Apple's Proprietary Software Locks Kill Independent Repair on New MacBook Pros

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Re: Apple's Proprietary Software Locks Kill Independent Repair on New MacBook Pros

#21

I never understood Apple with this. They fight hard to make long lasting devices (iOS 12 can be installed all the way back on the 5s IIRC), but then fight back against repairability

Repairability is a trade off. Have you looked under the hood of a German car lately?

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#22
post #14

If you don't like the particularities of how with how a business does business, don't buy their products. If enough people agree with you, the company will either go out of business, or will change its business practices. The what amounts to hand wringing over Apple, mostly gets people flustered, without actually changing anything, but perhaps the direction of a few electrons somewhere.

If you don't like the planet you're on, anyone can build a rocket ship and fly away if they really want to.

Using your logic, why should anyone change anything when they can just run away from their problems?

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#23
post #18

This is an excellent step for protecting MacBook Pro users against hardware invasions (such as US and China border authorities). If you trust the user to replace hardware, you permit the user’s hardware to be altered by malicious actors. By restricting final approval of hardware replacement to a vetted subset of all humanity, you ensure that it’s vastly more difficult for the vast majority of malicious humanity. Yes,…

The number of users who simply want/need cheaper repairs and upgrades dwarfs those who are at risk of getting their hardware bugged by state-sponsored actors. And considering these laptops are made in China in the first place, any assurances of security are already moot. If security was the primary concern, Apple would sell this as a separate model variant (manufactured in the USA) and charge a lot more for it.

I also used to believe that privacy was only for spys but I have very quickly changed my position.

Gays, minorities, journalists, dissidents, whistleblowers etc are all being targeted and jailed in many countries in the world. And in China it's entire swathes of the general public. And so much of this is directly attributable to lax privacy and security.

And I don't know believe that there is a huge market for cheaper repairs of Macs. Most people are still just going to local service providers who are authorised by Apple anyway. Otherwise getting hold of parts can be difficult.

Re: Apple's Proprietary Software Locks Kill Independent Repair on New MacBook Pros

#24

This is an excellent step for protecting MacBook Pro users against hardware invasions (such as US and China border authorities). If you trust the user to replace hardware, you permit the user’s hardware to be altered by malicious actors. By restricting final approval of hardware replacement to a vetted subset of all humanity, you ensure that it’s vastly more difficult for the vast majority of malicious humanity. Yes,…

My opinion about Apple has changed recently. They're now actively promoting privacy and I am OK with trading repairability with privacy.

Also, Louis Rossmann on Youtube one of the most vile, deeply corrosive personalities out there and his audience enjoys the bashing of Apple left and right. He has essentially marketed himself as Anti-Apple and his message is always "Apple is Evil".

Re: Apple's Proprietary Software Locks Kill Independent Repair on New MacBook Pros

#25
post #14

If you don't like the particularities of how with how a business does business, don't buy their products. If enough people agree with you, the company will either go out of business, or will change its business practices. The what amounts to hand wringing over Apple, mostly gets people flustered, without actually changing anything, but perhaps the direction of a few electrons somewhere.

If you don't like the planet you're on, anyone can build a rocket ship and fly away if they really want to. Using your logic, why should anyone change anything when they can just run away from their problems?

Apple isn't a planet. The only reason I have a relationship with them is because they offered a product that suited my needs.

A product I cannot repair does not suit my needs. I owe them no allegiance.

Re: Apple's Proprietary Software Locks Kill Independent Repair on New MacBook Pros

#26

I never understood Apple with this. They fight hard to make long lasting devices (iOS 12 can be installed all the way back on the 5s IIRC), but then fight back against repairability

Repairability is a trade off. Have you looked under the hood of a German car lately?

Or any car I would think. A lot of cars have a cover for the motor telling you not to screw around with your car.

Re: Apple's Proprietary Software Locks Kill Independent Repair on New MacBook Pros

#27

I never understood Apple with this. They fight hard to make long lasting devices (iOS 12 can be installed all the way back on the 5s IIRC), but then fight back against repairability

Repairability is a trade off. Have you looked under the hood of a German car lately?

All cars pretty much, mainly thanks to emissions regs

Re: Apple's Proprietary Software Locks Kill Independent Repair on New MacBook Pros

#28

This is an excellent step for protecting MacBook Pro users against hardware invasions (such as US and China border authorities). If you trust the user to replace hardware, you permit the user’s hardware to be altered by malicious actors. By restricting final approval of hardware replacement to a vetted subset of all humanity, you ensure that it’s vastly more difficult for the vast majority of malicious humanity. Yes,…

My opinion about Apple has changed recently. They're now actively promoting privacy and I am OK with trading repairability with privacy. Also, Louis Rossmann on Youtube one of the most vile, deeply corrosive personalities out there and his audience enjoys the bashing of Apple left and right. He has essentially marketed himself as Anti-Apple and his message is always "Apple is Evil".

Even if anyone had mentioned Rossman, your second paragraph is one of the most textbook ad hominem arguments it's possible to make.

Re: Apple's Proprietary Software Locks Kill Independent Repair on New MacBook Pros

#29

This is an excellent step for protecting MacBook Pro users against hardware invasions (such as US and China border authorities). If you trust the user to replace hardware, you permit the user’s hardware to be altered by malicious actors. By restricting final approval of hardware replacement to a vetted subset of all humanity, you ensure that it’s vastly more difficult for the vast majority of malicious humanity. Yes,…

And if this were an optional service that Apple provided for security-conscious customers, then I don't think anybody would have a problem with it.

Re: Apple's Proprietary Software Locks Kill Independent Repair on New MacBook Pros

#30

This is an excellent step for protecting MacBook Pro users against hardware invasions (such as US and China border authorities). If you trust the user to replace hardware, you permit the user’s hardware to be altered by malicious actors. By restricting final approval of hardware replacement to a vetted subset of all humanity, you ensure that it’s vastly more difficult for the vast majority of malicious humanity. Yes,…

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