My best analogy for non-musical coders is that it's sort of like touch typing while writing code. Your thoughts just come out through your fingers without thinking about it.
Ask HN: What does it feel like to master playing an instrument by ear?
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#12i tend to play by ear but it's more of a bad habit with limited usefulness than anything else, there's no real reason to romanticize it. simply spend enough time with any instrument and producing the right sounds will become intuitive. >I want to know what it feels like to be able to play an instrument without needing so much trial and error. then i highly suggest you focus on learning music theory rather than trying…
Thanks. Where do you suggest I start? Are there any beginner books or YouTube videos you can suggest?
There's a Kindle version of the textbook on Amazon.
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#13I learned the guitar playing by ear. As a kid I would just lock myself in my bedroom and play along with my CDs until my fingers were raw. It's a lot of screwing up, starting the song over, and trying again until it sounds right. I started doing this about 20 years ago so I've had quite a bit of practice, but at this point it's really a great feeling to listen to a song on YouTube and know pretty much before I pick u…
Words of wisdom.
Also, cross-reference this with hluska's comment about his grandma:
> As far as how it felt, my Grandma always smiled when she was playing music...
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#14Basically the first few years of anything (music or not) seems to be about correct articulation/grammar/vocabulary, and beyond that it's about the quality of expression.
(former classically trained concert violinist of 10+ years, hobbyist latin dancer of 10+ years - swapped a musical instrument for a physical one as an optimization to go along with long periods of desk work)
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#15An interesting side effect of this, is that whenever I hear a piece of music, I can correlate the notes to the keys on the piano, such that next time I sing that song, it can start at the exact same pitch. (Just looked it up and it's called "Absolute pitch"[0])
Re: Ask HN: What does it feel like to master playing an instrument by ear?
#16It took me around 10yrs to be able to identify the notes immediately just by listening. I didn't really had to study it to learn ... it just came naturally for me. It correlates easily to the music theory that you know, which is the main foundation that you need to get acquainted with. I play a lot of instruments but bass is my main instrument.
Interesting. Did you have a particular moment when you just "got it", or was it a gradual build up of ability over the 10 years?
It's just that the process is very gradual and takes a long time. I suppose the 10k hour rule applies here.
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#17Think about how you learned a spoken language and when you were able to spend time articulating ideas instead of thinking about words and grammar for it. That's kinda how mastering a music instrument is like. Basically the first few years of anything (music or not) seems to be about correct articulation/grammar/vocabulary, and beyond that it's about the quality of expression. (former classically trained concert violi…
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#18My experience is in playing Clarinet since I was about 10 years old, professionally for a year or two and more sporadically over the last 10 years. (I'm 50ish)
I can play clarinet (even now) without any difficulty, can (re)play music I've heard a couple of times (memory is getting worse as I get older) and sight read music fairly easily as long as it's not too fast or complex.
For the last 20 or so years, I've had access to a piano, and have attempted to teach myself how to play two handed. I can play melodies by ear, and add some simple chord accompaniment but have not a hope of reading two handed music to play.
Most other instruments, as long as I can master the technique for producing a decent sound and get my hands around the fingering, I can also play fairly successfully by ear. So I can pick up a guitar and pluck out a melody, pick up my daughters violin (groan) and squeak out someting that you can recognise. My technique sucks and I'm prob not doing it correctly. I can also do a pretty decent job of singing anything I hear.
My experience leads me to suspect that playing by ear is, like singing something you have heard, the natural way of making music. The only difference is that you need to have physical mastery of the sound making process, hence my difficulty with two handed playing piano as I've no experience with making music with each had playing something different.
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#20I started playing piano as an adult and can read music and play by ear. I worked as a dueling piano player for a few years wherr listening to your partner and figuring out what they're playing is a part of the job. I also write music down in various forms. Chords and lyrics, guitar tabs, and sheet music.
Everything helps, but you have to practice playing by ear as well. Just put a song on a loop and play along until you get it right.