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Re: Sans Forgetica, a font designed to help you remember your study notes

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Post by H1Supreme »

dx87 wrote: post #79
jaclaz wrote: post #14

Not to be the usual skeptic, but "scientifically designed" doesn't really-really mean (at least to me) "designed by scientists" (which this thingy is). I mean, nice and all, but what about some actual tests/reports of it actually being noticeably better at remembering what you have read? The concept is very nice and interesting, but besides it: >The science of Sans Forgetica >Sans Forgetica is more difficult to read…

It seems plausible, studies have shown that students who handwrite notes retain more information than students that type notes. The reason for this is because handwriting is slower than typing, so your mind spends more time thinking about what you're writing, vs just being a stenographer that writes everything the professor says, giving no thought to whether it's important or not. I can't speak to the validity of San…

> The reason for this is because handwriting is slower than typing, so your mind spends more time thinking about what you're writing

Yeah, but this is about a typeface that's intentionally harder to read, not write.

I agree with the idea that handwriting notes is more beneficial, to a degree. I prefer taking notes by hand, but once I reach a certain threshold (over 3 pages, usually) , I need to organize the notes digitally.

Re: Sans Forgetica, a font designed to help you remember your study notes

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Post by jessep »

xte wrote: post #100

Ahem, my knowledge of cognitive psychology (and psychology in general) are certainly not relevant but I pretend to be a decent reader... Sorry, your font is terrible to read. I spent more time in deciphering it than in understand the written concept. BTW personally I always found FAR MORE effective to take notes with pen and paper and after transfer them on personal desktop, in org_mode in my case so without any fanc…

I can't tell if you are joking or not. The point of the font is being terrible to read. There's an explanation on the page. Making your brain work harder to get the info makes it more likely to remember the info.

Re: Sans Forgetica, a font designed to help you remember your study notes

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Post by tokyodude »

irisli wrote: post #92

It would've been nice to have the whole page to be in the Sans Forgetica font to see it in action. I tried copy-pasting the whole website into the "Type something you want to remember" box near the bottom. Unfortunately, it's a and the original font styling got copied inside too. :|

they clearly don't want you to remember their site. If they did they'd be using their font

Re: Sans Forgetica, a font designed to help you remember your study notes

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Post by jaclaz »

HarryHirsch wrote: post #95
unit91 wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Been a long time since my Latin days and there's so much nominative/genitive overlap in those words I can't figure it out. "Writings of a fat snake" or something, I don't know. Help? :-)

It's "snake oil font". littera is a letter, and I hope that the plural form means "font" or "script". But litteræ definitely means "science" as well, so that's OK. Tufts University has Lewis & Short online: http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/resolveform?redirect=tru...

I would have used oleum instead of pinguis, which is more like "grease", I believe:

https://books.google.it/books?id=pdFLAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA85&lpg=PA...

Re: Sans Forgetica, a font designed to help you remember your study notes

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Post by moate »

slg wrote: post #89
moate wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not entirely valid. There is SOME number where it may not be beneficial because another learning technique would be more efficient, but having to read slower isn't a problem of itself if there goal is simply "get better at retaining this information". Also, there's a certain point where the delta is relevant enough to justify the extra effort invested (things involving safety/security for example).

Doesn't "get better at retaining this information" have an inherent assumption of "in a certain amount of time"? If not, you could always just keep rereading the text until you memorize it.

Yes, but that's included in my point. Maybe the slow-reading with this font is less overall time than the number of rereads required in order to hit the same retention levels. It's also possible that reading something slower allows for greater mental association or memory building than just speed reading something 10 times.

There's a bunch of reasons why this could be either better or worse, depending on a myriad of different factors. I think it's a cool tool to have in your kit.

Re: Sans Forgetica, a font designed to help you remember your study notes

#107

Post by gowld »

dx87 wrote: post #79
jaclaz wrote: post #14

Not to be the usual skeptic, but "scientifically designed" doesn't really-really mean (at least to me) "designed by scientists" (which this thingy is). I mean, nice and all, but what about some actual tests/reports of it actually being noticeably better at remembering what you have read? The concept is very nice and interesting, but besides it: >The science of Sans Forgetica >Sans Forgetica is more difficult to read…

It seems plausible, studies have shown that students who handwrite notes retain more information than students that type notes. The reason for this is because handwriting is slower than typing, so your mind spends more time thinking about what you're writing, vs just being a stenographer that writes everything the professor says, giving no thought to whether it's important or not. I can't speak to the validity of San…

You are speculating without evidence. Handwriting may be more effective for memorization than typing because forming letters by hand is a more memorable act than typing, nothing to do with "choosing what's important to write". Since handwriting is so laborious, it leaves LESS time for thinking about what to write down, not more.

You can test this yourself by making a fair comparision:

* Copy entire documents by handwriting vs typing, with no regard to choosing "what's important", and test which strategy leads to better recall.

* Take notes from a lecture by handwriting vs typing, setting a goal of say 10% of the total material note-taken, choosing what's important to write down, and giving yourself as much time as needed to write or tye everything

* Similar comparisons, writing all vs writing selections, typing all vs typying selectionsl

Re: Sans Forgetica, a font designed to help you remember your study notes

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Post by gowld »

jessep wrote: post #102
xte wrote: post #100

Ahem, my knowledge of cognitive psychology (and psychology in general) are certainly not relevant but I pretend to be a decent reader... Sorry, your font is terrible to read. I spent more time in deciphering it than in understand the written concept. BTW personally I always found FAR MORE effective to take notes with pen and paper and after transfer them on personal desktop, in org_mode in my case so without any fanc…

I can't tell if you are joking or not. The point of the font is being terrible to read. There's an explanation on the page. Making your brain work harder to get the info makes it more likely to remember the info.

"makes it more likely to remember the info" is a dubious claim, not an established fact.

Re: Sans Forgetica, a font designed to help you remember your study notes

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Post by gowld »

liamzebedee wrote: post #13

I tweeted about this yesterday, from the article: > "Students remembered 57 per cent ... written in Sans Forgetica, compared to 50 per cent .... in Ariel" 7% delta retention isn't so much, is it?

What is "Ariel"? Mermaid language?
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