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BlackBerry announces a new quantum-resistant code signing service

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Re: BlackBerry announces a new quantum-resistant code signing service

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I'll be honest, my knee-jerk reaction was "BlackBerry is still in business?". Anyone on HN own one or know of someone who does? I can't recall the last time I walked into a store who actually carried BB products on their shelves.

They're much less a hardware business anymore.

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It may be quantum-resistant, but it won't be law enforcement-resistant , knowing BlackBerry's track record and public statements on the issue.

If you don't mind me asking, what track record is that? A quick googling only revealed them giving access to their consumer messaging service.

https://www.tomsguide.com/us/BlackBerry-Saudi-Arabia-Lebanon...

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you don't mind me asking, what track record is that? A quick googling only revealed them giving access to their consumer messaging service.

https://www.tomsguide.com/us/BlackBerry-Saudi-Arabia-Lebanon...

Ahh so the BBM stuff. AFAIK they never sold out their enterprise customers.

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I'll be honest, my knee-jerk reaction was "BlackBerry is still in business?". Anyone on HN own one or know of someone who does? I can't recall the last time I walked into a store who actually carried BB products on their shelves.

I own a KeyOne, released last year with Android instead of BB's own OS. I love it, only downside is that I had to import it as it isn't available in my country ... I'd mainly used Samsung flagship phones before and got really tired of all the bloatware as well as typing on a touchscreen. (Can't believe more people are questioning touchscreen typing on phones, I think it's horrible and I don't have the largest set of fingers in the world.) I bought it for roughly $500 and this is what I make of it after one year of using it:

The camera on my KeyOne is superior to anything I've tried before, I'd even go as far as saying that it's up there and competing with the giants. The Sony Z2 Compact camera is a potato in comparison. The keyboard feels a bit cheap and some keys make a squeeking noise, but it's still better than touchscreen typing by far. I've dropped the phone on a number of occassions, it hasn't broken once. The backside tend to pop out, but it's easy to put it back in place again. My biggest complain about the hardware would be the screen, as I haven't access to any protective accessories my screen is pretty scratched by now. It doesn't affect what's displayed on the screen (yet) however, but yeah, I think it scratch too easily. Like I said, the OS is Android, and it's been fairly problem free for being Android. However, lately it has been a bit too agressive in shutting down apps in the background. But I don't know if that is BB's own build's fault or Android in general. There are some pre-installed "security" apps which gives the feeling of the phone being more secure than your other average Android phone. I don't use them though.

My over all impression of the KeyOne is 8 out of 10 I'd say, and I think I'll keep it until it literally fall apart.

Re: BlackBerry announces a new quantum-resistant code signing service

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> The solution, which will be available next month, is actually the product of a partnership between BlackBerry and Isara Corporation, a company whose mission is to build quantum-safe security solutions. BlackBerry is using Isara’s cryptographic libraries to help sign and protect code as security evolves.

That is extremely unhelpful, Tech Crunch.

Let's take a look at what Isara is researching.

https://www.isara.com/research-publications/

https://www.isara.com/qtesla/

https://www.isara.com/qc-mdpc-kem/

Okay, so the article is specifically talking about digital signatures, so they're almost certainly implementing qTESLA (or a Blackberry-specific variant thereof), which is a lattice-based signature algorithm.

https://qtesla.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/qTESLA_v2.2_08...

https://github.com/qtesla/qTesla

If this does turn out that they're implementing qTESLA (which is committed to the public domain), the headline "races ahead of security surve" will prove to be needlessly sensationalist.

Re: BlackBerry announces a new quantum-resistant code signing service

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post #9

I'll be honest, my knee-jerk reaction was "BlackBerry is still in business?". Anyone on HN own one or know of someone who does? I can't recall the last time I walked into a store who actually carried BB products on their shelves.

I own a KeyOne, released last year with Android instead of BB's own OS. I love it, only downside is that I had to import it as it isn't available in my country ... I'd mainly used Samsung flagship phones before and got really tired of all the bloatware as well as typing on a touchscreen. (Can't believe more people are questioning touchscreen typing on phones, I think it's horrible and I don't have the largest set of…

I also have a KEYone, got it a few months ago. When I was looking to upgrade and saw it on my provider's site I was like, "holy crap, Android with a hardware keyboard finally exists?"

Really, I didn't even care that it was Blackberry, I've been getting so tired of the software keyboards that I couldn't even consider the others once I saw it. And for me, it was definitely worth it. Now I can actually touch-type again without having to pause between words to check I didn't mis-type anything - I can feel it, just like missing a key on a regular keyboard.

Re: BlackBerry announces a new quantum-resistant code signing service

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I'll be honest, my knee-jerk reaction was "BlackBerry is still in business?". Anyone on HN own one or know of someone who does? I can't recall the last time I walked into a store who actually carried BB products on their shelves.

QNX will let them transition into a car company

https://www.forbes.com/sites/greatspeculations/2018/10/01/bl...

Re: BlackBerry announces a new quantum-resistant code signing service

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Last time I read about quantum resistant crypto was regarding the NSA's call for papers. As I recall many of the used cryptosystems were broken by conventional computing within like a month.

My point being, what reason do we have to believe these are safe cryptosystems.

Re: BlackBerry announces a new quantum-resistant code signing service

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post #9

I'll be honest, my knee-jerk reaction was "BlackBerry is still in business?". Anyone on HN own one or know of someone who does? I can't recall the last time I walked into a store who actually carried BB products on their shelves.

I own a KeyOne, released last year with Android instead of BB's own OS. I love it, only downside is that I had to import it as it isn't available in my country ... I'd mainly used Samsung flagship phones before and got really tired of all the bloatware as well as typing on a touchscreen. (Can't believe more people are questioning touchscreen typing on phones, I think it's horrible and I don't have the largest set of…

How's the update cycle like?
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